[Hidden-tech] Visual brainstorming service?

[Christine Takacs]

Well said Todd! I think poor Marcia is seeing that she hit a sore spot with us designers. This is why there is a Graphic Designers Guild outlining fair pricing and ethical practices so we do not cannibalize our own industry by underselling our services. Excellent creative work is a rare commodity and worth the price. Of course if you happen to be chummy with a great designer who has the time for favors you are very lucky...

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On Sep 17, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Todd M. LeMieux - (413) 747-9321 wrote:

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> I'd like to add that the time it takes to come up with something isn't necessarily a measure of its value. At all. I don't get paid by the hour, I get paid by the value of my design work. So for an item that will be resold, in multiples, the value of my design solution is much greater than 30 minutes of my billable time.
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> On 9/17/12 7:39 AM, Valerie Spain wrote:
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>> I'd also add that someone "with the right kind of creativity" may not be able to "toss it off in half an hour." Good designers don't necessarily come up with good concepts in less time- there are a lot of variables. 
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>> But that said there are a lot of good designers out here.
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>> On Sep 16, 2012, at 10:17 PM, Rita Muncie <rmuncie at noleftturn.biz> wrote:
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>>> I would be surprised if you find someone who could offer this. Coming up with the core idea is frequently the hardest part of a design project. Then what would you do with the "core of something" once you had it?
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>>> On Sep 14, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Marcia Yudkin wrote:
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>>>>   ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area.
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>>>> Hi all,
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>>>> I have a dilemma that I wonder if any design-oriented people on the list can help with.
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>>>> I have a book cover designer who does great work if I give her a concept to work with.  I am working on a new book that needs a cover and I don't have a good idea of how to illustrate its central idea in a way that avoids cliches.  
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>>>> So I hired a different cover designer (cheaper) who had a terrific portfolio, thinking that if he created something I liked I could have her flesh it out and I'd pay both and give them both credit.  (I hope there's nothing unethical there, but if so I'm sure someone will let me know about that.)  However, this guy's concepts were all disappointing.  From our ensuing discussion, I learned that what he did was go hunting on Shutterstock, using the most obvious keyword, and chose three images categorized under that keyword and combined each with the book title and byline, in three separate design ideas, to show me.  
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>>>> Jeez, I could have done that myself!  I was really disappointed.  What I hoped he would do would be to brainstorm ideas and then find stock images and combine or use them in unobvious ways.  In addition, I was appalled at the possibility that I might have ended up using an image on my cover that a million other people had used in much the same way - because it was listed under the core keyword.  Worst of all, when he found I wasn't happy with his concepts, he asked me to tell him what I wanted... which was why I had hired him in the first place, because I didn't have a good visual idea.  (Images are not my strong point.)
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>>>> So I am wondering if there are designers who offer a service of brainstorming visual ideas that can form the core of something like a book cover, without actually executing the actual cover in detail.  For someone with the right kind of creativity, this is something they could toss off in half an hour, I imagine.  
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>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Marcia Yudkin
>>>> www.yudkin.com
>>>> Goshen
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