Hi Marcia, If a single photograph feels like a could be a suitable solution to the cover, one option is for you to browse through sources like Shutterstock until you find a picture you like and then pay someone to "flesh" that out with the necessary words and so on. I sold rights to one of my photographs to an author who then hired a designer to make it into a book cover design. However, not all books are right for a photograph cover. If the designer who did the covers you do not like has a great portfolio I would at least consider taking another try at working with him. One thing that can help a designer create something that makes you happy is if you can point to examples (of book cover designs in this case) that you think are really good. A good designer will not copy the designs. What they will do is use the designs to understand what appeals to you. Hiring one person to start a design and another to finish it gets tricky. I know that if I was one of the two designers it would get tricky working out whether I would want my name on something that I did not fully create. If you can reveal the subject of the book maybe the Hidden-Tech community could be your brainstorming team. See what ideas people come back with and see if anything clicks with you. Good luck, Bruce -----Original Message----- From: hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net [mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net] On Behalf Of Marcia Yudkin Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 6:57 PM To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net Subject: [Hidden-tech] Visual brainstorming service? ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. ** If you did, we all thank you. Hi all, I have a dilemma that I wonder if any design-oriented people on the list can help with. I have a book cover designer who does great work if I give her a concept to work with. I am working on a new book that needs a cover and I don't have a good idea of how to illustrate its central idea in a way that avoids cliches. So I hired a different cover designer (cheaper) who had a terrific portfolio, thinking that if he created something I liked I could have her flesh it out and I'd pay both and give them both credit. (I hope there's nothing unethical there, but if so I'm sure someone will let me know about that.) However, this guy's concepts were all disappointing. From our ensuing discussion, I learned that what he did was go hunting on Shutterstock, using the most obvious keyword, and chose three images categorized under that keyword and combined each with the book title and byline, in three separate design ideas, to show me. Jeez, I could have done that myself! I was really disappointed. What I hoped he would do would be to brainstorm ideas and then find stock images and combine or use them in unobvious ways. In addition, I was appalled at the possibility that I might have ended up using an image on my cover that a million other people had used in much the same way - because it was listed under the core keyword. Worst of all, when he found I wasn't happy with his concepts, he asked me to tell him what I wanted... which was why I had hired him in the first place, because I didn't have a good visual idea. (Images are not my strong point.) So I am wondering if there are designers who offer a service of brainstorming visual ideas that can form the core of something like a book cover, without actually executing the actual cover in detail. For someone with the right kind of creativity, this is something they could toss off in half an hour, I imagine. Any suggestions? Thanks, Marcia Yudkin www.yudkin.com Goshen _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2437/5271 - Release Date: 09/16/12