As an interesting sidenote, each of the emails from the HT list with LinkBuilding.Net in the subject line was classified by the yahoo mailer as SPAM. Just sayin'... --- On Thu, 3/18/10, Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com> wrote: From: Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] LinkBuilding.Net To: "Chris Hoogendyk" <hoogendyk at bio.umass.edu> Cc: "hidden-discuss Tech" <hidden-discuss at mm01.tnrnet.com> Date: Thursday, March 18, 2010, 11:06 AM ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. ** If you did, we all thank you. At Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:55:05 -0400 Chris Hoogendyk <hoogendyk at bio.umass.edu> wrote: > > ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. > ** If you did, we all thank you. > > > > > Val Nelson wrote: > > Hi Fred and Kimo, > > I agree with others who have said run away, especially because of what > > Jeff Rutherford said about Google penalizing your ranks if you sell > > links. Search engines will usually figure it out. I've seen it happen. > > > > The only scenario in which you should ever sell a link is if they will > > still pay you if you put a "nofollow" attribute on the link and an ad > > disclaimer notice near the link, because that will keep Google's trust > > in your site. However most ad link brokers won't allow that. > > > > If you want to make money with links on your site, check out affiliate > > options. I wrote about various do's and don'ts for putting ads on your > > blog (or website) here: > > http://www.valnelson.com/blogging/should-i-put-ads-on-my-blog/ > > I don't really get these objections. What are "ads by google" all about > if google doesn't like ads? And what are those ads all over the > commercial sites and newspaper sites? And why is it that we constantly > hear on the news that the internet business model for many of the big > players is advertising? There is a difference between 'advertising' and a 'paid' link. One normally thinks of a link as suggesting: 'I think this other site here is good/cool/worth checking out.' -- that is it is a *personal* (or *company*) *endorsement*. An ad is something else: not something that is endorsed, but a paid place to to put some possibly compelling copy. I think that what people are saying about the LinkBuilding people is that they are not a normal advertising channel, but are something else -- they are paying you to 'endorse' their site. It is an attempt to alter the page ranking. Google does NOT count advertising links in its page ranking -- *proper* advertising links are marked as such (and/or Google's spider can detect them as such). > > It seems that the decision process for both sides would revolve around > relevance and cost effectiveness of the advertising. Is it appropriate > for your site and does it add anything? Or is it just plain dollars and > is it worth it? Does it fit your business model and hit your audience? > -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software -- Download the Model Railroad System http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Binaries for Linux and MS-Windows heller at deepsoft.com -- http://www.deepsoft.com/ModelRailroadSystem/ _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20100318/0689fc25/attachment.html