I'm finding this thread a little troubling. It's absurd to define millennials or boomers in any blanket sense. From what I've seen, there is a natural progression in a career: the young turk, the growing experience, the seasoned professional, the end game. The day I, as a seasoned professional or worse, start proclaiming that the young people have no [fill in the blank] is the day I remember my father ragging on the Beatles or my grad English dept ragging on me for using a mainframe text processor to write fiction. I'd say being young and inexperienced no matter how professional or callow one is is a natural stage. I knew a lot about software once. Now there are whole areas that I have only a vague notion of. The ones I need, I learn. The ones I can't, I find someone who does. I look for a professional and I don't really give a fig whether he's a she, has a tattoo or an iPhone, tweets or hasn't read something on paper in years or once saw Dion and the Belmonts live. I really care whether the person delivers. That's not age related or generational. That's personality. Sure a lot of young people have terrible spelling and grammar compared with boomers--they haven't seen the words written as much as they've heard them. My sister-in-law is blind and she has pretty much the same problem and she's 63. But how many boomers know Latin and Greek the way most college educated people did in the 1930's? Just my two cents. Don Lesser Pioneer Training, Inc. 139B Damon Road, Ste 2 Northampton, MA 01060 (413) 387-1040 (413) 586-0545 (fax) dlesser at ptraining.com www.ptraining.com -----Original Message----- From: hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net [mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net] On Behalf Of Lynne Rudié Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:01 PM To: nestor at fuzzy-math.com Cc: 'hidden-discuss'; Town Websites Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Thanks to all those great Web designers - curious about the new generation/work expectations ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. ** If you did, we all thank you. This is a really interesting thread, much to think about. One of the challenges for us "seasoned" professionals is in how to put a value on our experience. My days as a whiz kid are long gone, and at this point there will always be people who are more state-of-the-art with their software than I am. But I know how to meet a deadline and manage a budget, I know how to make and maintain relationships, and I do good teamwork. I also know lots of people and give good advice. My experience is valuable to me too, in terms of being able to decide who I want to work with and knowing what I'm good at. Some things you can learn in school and some things you can only learn by doing them. Some clients know that you get what you pay for, and some don't. It's a big world. There's room for everybody. Lynne _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members