[Hidden-tech] Mail chimp, etc., question

Graham Clarke gdclarke at 53tech.com
Wed Jan 6 10:57:50 EST 2010


Jeff is spot on here.  Most hosts will have a cow if you send 1000 
emails at once.  Don't underestimate the time it takes to keep your 
servers off the blacklists.  You will spend more time & money tracking 
down why all of your emails to AOL.com or EARTHLINK are being blocked 
than you will ever spend on MailChimp or Delivera.

Graham

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Jeff Rutherford wrote:
>    ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area.
>    ** If you did, we all thank you.
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> Even with an 8,000 name list, why is she considering keeping it 
> in-house? In my opinion, she's going to spend more time, hassle, and 
> frustration dealing with the technical issues involved in email 
> deliverability (DKIM, authentication, making sure she's not sending to 
> spam traps, domain reputation, etc.) vs. working with a reputable 
> email service provider - Mailchimp, Bronto, Blue Sky Factory, etc. 
> And, if she doesn't stay on top of her deliverability stats 
> constantly, if her deliverability goes down the ISPs will note that 
> and start blocking her email further.
>
> Personally, I wouldn't consider using my own servers and dealing with 
> the minutia of deliverability unless I had a list that grew to 100,000+.
>
> Jeff
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> Jeff Rutherford
> jeff at jeffrutherford.com <mailto:jeff at jeffrutherford.com>
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> On Jan 6, 2010, at 7:46 AM, Lisa Sieverts wrote:
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>>   ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's 
>> area.
>>   ** If you did, we all thank you.
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>>  I should that she's been doing email marketing for a while, her real 
>> trouble is in the conversion of this 8000 name list to a better 
>> database and picking the right program to use. Dan Green sounds 
>> great, but it also sounds like he's a "hosted" solution for email 
>> marketing, is that right? She definitely wants to keep the work in 
>> house and just needs help with the technical side.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Lisa
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>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Val Nelson <val at valnelson.com 
>> <mailto:val at valnelson.com>> wrote:
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>>     Hi Lisa,
>>     The best expert in the area about email marketing success is Dan
>>     Green of The Green Internet Group.
>>     http://www.thegreeninternetgroup.com/
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>>           866.506.1923
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>>     He is a Hidden Tech member.
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>>     Best wishes,
>>
>>     Val Nelson
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>>     On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Lisa Sieverts
>>     <lisa at lisasieverts.com <mailto:lisa at lisasieverts.com>> wrote:
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>>           ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the
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>>           ** If you did, we all thank you.
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>>         A friend is looking for help setting up an 8000 person email
>>         list for use with a monthly newsletter. I recommended
>>         MailChimp to her, but I would love to be able to give her
>>         names of Hidden Tech folks with email marketing expertise who
>>         could help her out. Please contact me off list if you'd be
>>         interested in talking to her about consulting work.
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>>         Lisa Sieverts
>>         lisa at lisasieverts.com <mailto:lisa at lisasieverts.com>
>>         Project Management Consulting
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