[Hidden-tech] Hidden-discuss Digest, Vol 64, Issue 26
Paul Carter
paulc at clickbasics.com
Thu Feb 25 12:46:36 EST 2010
Re: "Whether Web 2.0 is qualitatively different from prior web technologies
has been challenged by World Wide Web inventor Tim Berners-Lee, who
called the term a "piece of jargon" --- precisely because he intended
the Web to embody these values in the first place."
I agree. What's changed is not so much the technology as the use of it by
consumers. There has been a revolution from the understanding of the web as
just another one-way communication tool for marketers to "target" an
audience. With the rise of SPAM, there has been a push back by consumers,
who no longer trust one-way marketing communication but rather
consumer-to-consumer communication.
Hence the incredible adoption rate of social media tools. It's not about the
tools. It's about consumers' need to find trusted products and services.
Businesses first need to use so called 2.0 tools to listen, address
consumer's concerns, and participate in the conversation. Listening ->
conversation -> trust -> selection.
Any specific 2.0 strategy needs to be thought through in terms of business
objectives and customer preferences. Progress in building trust can be
measured by a variety of non-traditional metrics depending on the chosen
strategy.
One great metric to start with is the "Net Promoter Score." More info at:
bit.ly/net_promoter_score.
Best,
Paul Carter
ClickBasics Internet Marketing
www.clickbasics.com
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> 1. Open source payroll software alternative to Quickbooks or
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> 3. Studies/Surveys on Effectiveness of "Web 2.0" (P. Havens)
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> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:57:09 -0500
> From: Andrew Bellak <andrew at stakeholderscapital.com>
> Subject: [Hidden-tech] Open source payroll software alternative to
> Quickbooks or ADP/Paychex
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> Dear H-T,
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> I'm wondering what experiences folks have had with alternatives to
> Quickbooks payroll. Quickbooks Basic lists for $11/month for up to 3
> employees.
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> Paychex and ADP cost more but take on some liability with proper filings
> in case their are penalties for errors/omissions.
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> I appreciate in advance the wisdom from this list.
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> Thanks,
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> From: Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com>
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Open source payroll software alternative to
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> > I'm wondering what experiences folks have had with alternatives to
> > Quickbooks payroll. Quickbooks Basic lists for $11/month for up to 3
> > employees.
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> I'd recomend GnuCash, but GnuCash does not presently have payroll
> functionallity. OTOH, I suspect the addition of payroll functionallity
> would be welcomed by many people. For other business bookkeeping,
> GnuCash is great.
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> > Paychex and ADP cost more but take on some liability with proper filings
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> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:55:22 -0500
> From: "P. Havens" <safe.haven15 at att.net>
> Subject: [Hidden-tech] Studies/Surveys on Effectiveness of "Web 2.0"
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> Hello HT,
> Just thought I'd throw out a request to everyone for their input. It
> seems that recently when I have been at various business networking
> events, the topic of "Web 2.0" comes up. There seems to be a lot of
> mystery, myth, and intrigue around the topic that generates a lot of
> questions and occasionally some very heated opinions. Here is my
> request - has anyone come across any studies or surveys that indicate
> either quantitatively or qualitatively how "Web 2.0" technologies
> really help small and medium size businesses to grow? If not, do you
> have any recommendations as to a good starting point to begin a
> search? As a (new) small business owner myself, and one involved with
> technology projects, I'd like to be more knowledgeable about this.
> Thanks for any information. Philip Havens
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> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:26:12 -0500
> From: Charles Uchu Strader <uchu.1 at gaiahost.coop>
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Studies/Surveys on Effectiveness of "Web
> 2.0"
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> Philip,
>
> Great question. Here's a great reference on how defining "Web 2.0" as a
> term, with any real qualitative or quantitative measures is itself a bit
> of a cloud! (pun intended for those geeks out there) So best of luck
> to finding data that shows clear results on it's effectiveness...a
> better question may be "How is the Internet useful to helping small and
> medium sized businesses grow?"
>
> ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0
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> "Whether Web 2.0 is qualitatively different from prior web technologies
> has been challenged by World Wide Web inventor Tim Berners-Lee, who
> called the term a "piece of jargon" --- precisely because he intended
> the Web to embody these values in the first place."
>
> Cheers,
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> Charles Uchu Strader
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> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:14:03 -0500
> From: Val Nelson <val at valnelson.com>
> Subject: [Hidden-tech] artist portfolio website tools?
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> Hi folks,
> I wonder what you would recommend for this. I have an artist friend who
> wants to put her own portfolio on the web in a simple, do-it-yourself
> low-budget way. She's not looking to pay for a professionally designed
> website at this time.
>
> I have heard of http://www.icompendium.com but are there other tools for
> this that you know of? Any you would avoid?
>
> Thanks
> Val
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