[Hidden-tech] WiredWest fiberoptic broadband

[Matthew S. Crocker]

The cost of building any network (fiber,copper or coax) is the labor and make ready work.  If you were going to hire the bucket trucks and replace the poles anyway why would you put anything but fiber up?   Anything that you do that isn't Fiber To The Home is a band-aid solution that is a waste of money in the long term.

100% of the service provider gear (Cisco, Juniper, etc) is sold with a non-transferable license, if you buy it on e-bay you are buying the hardware but have no legal right to use the software running on it.   In many cases you can re-certify the hardware and buy the software license but not always.

Now, If there is an existing copper plant you want to use there are many ways to use it,  DOCSIS for Coax, DSL for twisted pair.

As A CLEC I have access to the Verizon twisted pair.  I can install a remote terminal in a town and then pay Verizon per pair to use their copper.  I can then support any service that meets the Telcordia standards for telephony wires.   I have, for example ADSL2+ in Northampton that is pushing out 24mbps. 

The only thing I would need is a group of customers (100 or so) in a given area to sign up for a multi-year contract.  I tried a 'build it and they will come' network in Colrain and lost too much money to want to try that again.

-Matt

----- Original Message -----

> From: "Kevin Phillips" <kevin at kpitconsulting.com>
> To: roy at net-vantage.com, Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:07:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] WiredWest fiberoptic broadband
> 
> ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's
> area.
>    ** If you did, we all thank you.
> 
> 
> Has anyone looked at buying up and redeploying DOCSIS 2.0 gear that is
> now
> being removed by Comcast etc ?
> Lets face it, even 42 Mbit/s down and 30 Mbit/s up makes DSL look
> silly !!!
> You can find modems for $20 all day long on Ebay.
> Also for TV, there must be a ton of used analogue modulators out there
> too.
> Obviously none of this will be leading edge, but the co-ax can handle
> anything thrown at it and the old head/ consumer end gear gets you off
> to a
> less expensive start.
> Just TOL
> 
> 
> Kevin Phillips 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net
> [mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net] On Behalf Of RA
> Cohen
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:06 PM
> To: Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] WiredWest fiberoptic broadband
> 
>    ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's
> area.
>    ** If you did, we all thank you.
> 
> 
> Hey I don't want to rain on anyone's parade concerning wireless, but
> has
> anyone at all stopped to ask themselves if we really want all these
> microwaves zinging around us in much higher frequency and
> concentration than
> today? Don't at least some of us live here because we think the
> environment
> might be a tad healthier than urban areas?
> 
> Fiber fiber fiber that's the only to go way let's concentrate and
> focus on
> this - and enough fiber has to be laid so if a strand or two or seven
> goes
> bad in the major trunk? down the road (I'm not a fiber expert so I'm
> not
> sure of the semantics) then it's a simple matter to find another
> strand...
> 
> I think Matt Crocker's financial analysis is right on the money
> also...
> 
> -Roy
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