To each his own... I can completely understand your individual points of view with regards to what the point of a website should be. While you are approaching it from a strictly informational aspect, our job is to provide a little more that makes the product unique, and we cater that message to our target audience, of which you may or may not be a part. I'd liken it to making a good movie. Sure, we could sum it up for you in 30 seconds, but to get our entire point across we might need 2 hours. We want you to get involved in our story. And in the end you may have a different feeling about who we are. Maybe not in your case, and yes, we will probably piss off a few people here and there, but if we did our job, the majority of visitors will come across with a feeling of what we're all about, instead of simply an informational repository indicated by a URL. I don't think we'll agree on this because everyone's internet viewing habits are unique, and we definitely agree that usability/ accessibility is a big deal across all of the web. However, the question becomes at what point does catering too much to the past prevent us from moving forward? -- Blair Winans Winans Creative blair at winanscreative.com m. 857.205.0210 p. 413.303.0353 f. 413.303.9465 www.winanscreative.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: pastedGraphic.tiff Type: image/tiff Size: 10460 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20090122/b03a1322/pastedGraphic.tiff -------------- next part -------------- On Jan 22, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Edbride-PR wrote: > ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's > area. > ** If you did, we all thank you. > > > The sound is coming in, regardless of whether you play it or not, so > you're not saving bandwidth by turning off the sound. But you're > probably lowering your blood pressure. > > I join the chorus of those who despise Flash on a home page. Finding > the Exit or Next button to escape from Flash isn't exactly my > definition of sticky. Spending 20 seconds looking? Wow...that's some > qualifier: it assumes visitors are so captivated in their search > that they will endure this wait, and Flash, looking for "just their > info." Sounds like the brand is all about testing customers' patience. > > Ed > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kopec" <t_e_k at comcast.net> > To: <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Restaurant websites built using Adobe > Flash? > > >> >> At 09:52 AM 1/22/2009, Info @ WinansCreative.com wrote: >> >>> We had cases where SEO wasn't that big a concern to our client, >>> and we explained the risks/benefits of using Flash well in >>> advance. The goal was to get people to spend more than 20 seconds >>> on the site looking for just their info, so that they could really >>> experience what the brand was all about. >> >> IMHO, this is a serious problem. You are wasting my time for your >> (client's) goals. In general, if I get stuck in eye candy when I'm >> looking for information (MY goals), I will go somewhere else if >> possible. >> >> While I'm ranting, I generally surf with sound off because of all >> the noisy websites out there. I'd really like to be able to leave >> sounds on, but it is just too distracting and annoying, not to >> mention a waste of bandwidth. >> >> Just my $0.02, foe what it's worth.. >> >> ...tom > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion > list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the > Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members