At Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:33:16 -0400 Scott Reed <sreed at avacoda.com> wrote: > > ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee. > ** You too can help the group > ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. > ** If you did, we all thank you. > > > Tom, > > A massive switch to Apple products is unlikely to resolve this issue. > While MS products are rife with vulnerabilities which is 90% of the > problem, it is also the case that Apple's smaller installed base makes > it a less fruitful target for hackers. Once a significant portion of the > market switches to Linux and Mac OS, my guess is hackers will come after > us just as rabidly as they have been harassing all the unfortunate MS > users. On the other hand, I fully agree that folks whose business allows > them and who can afford Apple products, should switch and enjoy the > relative peace of the non-MS world while they can. One data point to consider: Although it is true that Microsoft Windows is on like 90% of the *desktops*, Microsoft claims less than 30% of the *servers*. Actually that is specificly *web* servers, other types of servers cover a much larger percentage (DNS and Mail servers in partitular). Although hackers *have* *tried* to attack UNIX and Linux based servers, they have not been very successfull (and yes, the hackers do go after servers, but have only really been successful with MS-Windows servers). There are several reasons. Yes, people who operate these servers are more tech savy, but mostly it is in the nature of how the operating system(s) these servers work -- UNIX is just plain more imune to the kinds of things that easily break MS-Windows, mostly do to the way it is organized and how processes and priviledges and access to the hardware, and so on are arranged -- that is, its 'protection model'. MS-Windows was born on a totally unprotected base system (MS-DOS, aka QDOS, aka CP/M). Yes, modern version of MS-Windows are no longer based on MS-DOS, but for downward compatibility reasons NT's (originally good) protection model is broken in various ways. Another big part of why UNIX, Linux, (and MacOSX, which is also a flavor of [open source] UNIX under-the-hood), is that most/all of the code is open source -- open source software tends to get its security holes fixed *before* the hackers find them. 'With enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow' -- Eric Raymond, I believe. It turns out than a modern operating system is far too complex to keep closed source and also keep it up-to-date WRT security problems. Even SUN finally gave up: Solaris is now open source -- it was the only way SUN could have any hope of keeping it secure. > > Scott > > Tom / Reelife Productions wrote: > > <tiresome dobee notice snipped> > > Hi all, > > > > Although, I usually loath the tired and annoying apple vs. microsoft > > nose-in-the-air-debates, i think this is an appropriate place to > > mention, that in the 18 years that I've been using apple products, I > > have never owned or used virus protection software and, more > > importantly, never had a virus on any one of my computers. > > > > The main reason i mention this is because I always read and hear about > > how much time, money and heartache goes into virus protection, etc. > > it's really debilitating for small businesses and seems very > > unfortunate that people have had to struggle with this over the years.... > > > > my .20 cents. > > > > Regards, > > Tom Adams > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > -- Robert Heller -- Get the Deepwoods Software FireFox Toolbar! Deepwoods Software -- Linux Installation and Administration http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Web Hosting, with CGI and Database heller at deepsoft.com -- Contract Programming: C/C++, Tcl/Tk