[Hidden-tech] Re: Recycling dead computers?

Florent Eric Paredes eric at concepts.org
Mon Jun 2 09:17:26 EDT 2008


Apple Enterprise Sales recycle your old equipment and gives extra discount
for it, they also recycle PCs and other Linux and take care of data cleanup
and electronics recycling. This is an excerpt of Apple Enterprise Sales:


"   Apple¹s Trade-in and Recycling Program allows you to maximize your
investment on Apple¹s products, upgrade to the latest Leopard platforms and
also address critical issues of technology disposal. The guiding principles
of our trade-in and recycling program are:

€ maintaining the privacy of your company¹s data
€ making technology disposal easy for you
€ guarding against harmful working conditions.
€ protecting the environment from toxic materials.
€ recycling of machines are all done in North America ­ not exported for
recycling. 

Even more, we assure the following:

€ Data on memory drives will be deleted to U.S. Department of Defense
standards before a system is re-marketed or recycled.
€ Harmful components of technology received for recycling will be reused or
disposed of responsibly.

The trade-in/recycling process is simple and complete ­ from pricing to
packaging to logistics to disposal.   "

              


From: Matt Lampiasi <mattl at florenceit.net>
Organization: Florence I.T.
Reply-To: <mattl at florenceit.net>
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:31:46 -0400
Cc: <Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Re: Recycling dead computers?

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Ok, so the nail is cheaper, and now we're going to do what with heavy metals
in the remains? throw the rest out in the trash because thats cheaper too?
does anyone else read the papers? these poisons kill people and leech into
water supplies, not just someplace far "away" :
http://www.savingparadise.info/

computer components need to be properly recycled (better yet reused) if you
care at all about the health of the planet and our children's future,
starting right here is the best place to make a difference. sending to a
place like greendisk as i mentioned solves both problems of security and
environment (and cost if you are willing to pay the true cost of disposing
of your electronics).

Florent Eric Paredes wrote:
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> Being exposed to heavy metal fumes ( Arsenic, Cadmium, Mercury, Lead) is the
> cost of nailing a hard drive if you nail the electronic board. So stay away
> from potential heavy metal poisoning and toxicity, leave the board intact,
> your data is not on the board.
> 
> Instead nail the metallic side until you hear the inside disc(s) break like
> glass. If some cases the drive has 2 metallic sides just guess what side the
> board is on looking at the connectors and nail the other side.
> Watch your fingers:)
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>> From: Chris Woods <cswoods at gmail.com> <mailto:cswoods at gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: <csw at alumni.unh.edu> <mailto:csw at alumni.unh.edu>
>> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:08:06 -0400
>> To: <Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
>> <mailto:Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Re: Recycling dead computers?
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>>    ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee.
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>> 
>> A few more points to consider with regards to computer recycling and
>> data security.
>> 
>> There are many ways your data may be at risk. Phishing and social
>> engineering attacks are probably the most common. Intrusion by an
>> unauthorized user tends to get the most attention (TJX, Hannaford's,
>> Harvard, etc) but are fairly difficult and thus less common but not
>> insignificant. Theft of the hardware is fairly common, particularly
>> laptops. Scavenging trash bins or recycling containers is common and
>> requires no technical expertise. Somewhere in the middle of this pack
>> is scanning discarded or re-sold hard disks in terms of complexity and
>> risk.
>> 
>> In general, something like Mac OS X secure erase will protect your
>> data from disclosure but you need to be certain it worked properly. In
>> my personal experience I've encountered one instance where I could not
>> completely wipe the drive with it. Using a hammer and nail to destroy
>> the disk ensures that data cannot be recovered. It has the benefit of
>> being simple, cheap, and readily available to most people. For this
>> reason, I advocate it.
>> 
>> There are many charities that collect and refurbish used computing
>> equipment. Obviously these charities would prefer you not to
>> physically destroy your hard disk. I certainly do not discourage
>> anyone from donating to these charities although I do encourage
>> individuals concerned about security (more about why you should be
>> concerned below) to swap the used disk for a new one. Hard disks can
>> be had for as little as $50 which is cheap for the security and peace
>> of mind it provides and no more expensive than many 'security'
>> software packages that provide far less security. For an installed OS,
>> I cheerfully recommend Linux as a free alternative to the Windows and
>> Mac OS's.
>> 
>> It's one thing to take a calculated risk with your own information,
>> for businesses, the are laws that govern how they can dispose of
>> computer equipment that contained personal data. Failing to properly
>> dispose of that equipment can result in substantial penalties, loss of
>> reputation, and legal action. I certainly encourage business owners to
>> donate their used equipment as well. Businesses, particularly larger
>> ones that have IT departments, might very well be able to securely
>> erase their drives prior to donation. Some smaller business may not
>> have a skilled IT staff and I would encourage them to swap the used
>> drive for a new one. Again the legal consideration is paramount.
>> 
>> Finally, data theft accounts for billions in lost resources each year.
>> Ensuring proper disposal and protection of personal data will lower
>> transaction costs, reduce lawsuits, and lower the cost of goods and
>> services. These are real resources that are lost through a combination
>> of criminal behavior, indifference, ignorance, and incompetence.
>> People have, and continue, to lose their homes, pensions, savings, and
>> businesses because of it. By working to prevent data theft those
>> resources might be redirected towards making the world a better place.
>> 
>> Meantime, let's not make it an either/or (charity/security). We can have
>> both.
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