>> > You should be aware: Crocker has to 'rent' the copper connected to > your > house from the local telephone monopoly, which is Verizon. So even > though you are using Crocker's DSL, the wires connecting to your house > are owned by Verizon. > While that is true, we do wholesale our DSL from Verizon. Verizon owns the copper to your house and the DSLAM in the CO. They aggregate our customers onto our ATM circuit in Springfield. We terminate the PPPoE sessions and provide IP address & bandwidth on our equipment in Springfield. I'll never own copper on the street, it doesn't make sense for anyone financially to replicate what Verizon has built. That is why Verizon has a natural monopoly and also why they are regulated and forced to provide competitive access to their network with The Telecommunications Act of 1996. I'm a CLEC, I have equipment inside the Verizon COs. I'm starting to deploy my own DSLAMs. If everyone in Western MA that uses Verizon Online switched to Crocker DSL we would be able to start running fiber on the polls. I would also be a very busy man :) For the hidden geek in all of us: Currently we have a DS-3 ATM circuit to Verizon (45mbps) which is getting pretty full during prime time (M-F 10a-4p). The DS-3 connects to a Redback SMS 1800 router I have a shiny new Redback SE-400 in Springfield and an OC-3 on order with Verizon (155mbps). By the end of February I should have everything cross connected and switched over. As far as Residential VoIP goes, I have everything in place except a good DSL modem + VoIP ATA. I have a couple in the mail and if it works I'll be able to roll out ResiDSL + ResiVoIP by summer time. You would use a normal phone, we would install the modem in your house. It comes with a battery so your phone will continue to work if you lose power. BTW, I need to hire a unix geek, If you live, eat and breath RHEL & Solaris send me an e-mail. -Matt -- Matthew S. Crocker President Crocker Communications, Inc. PO BOX 710 Greenfield, MA 01302-0710 E: matthew at crocker.com P: (413) 746-2760 F: (413) 746-3704 W: http://www.crocker.com