Another idea is to structure a contract in the manner that my father had in the 1940s. He repaired industrial oil burners. This was not even close to his regular job as a tool & die maker. The contract has a set small fee (retainer) that is used up every week or month. Work that you do uses that fee. If you don't do any work for that month, the fee is yours. An example: You receive $500/mo retainer. If you do nothing, you get the $500. If you work for 1 to 5 hours, you get the $500. If you work more than you bill them at $100/hr above the $500 level. This allows your client to have you on a guarenteed basis, and pays for your time lost. Time lost? Yes, remember, while you are on a retainer, you cannot take that month vacation Florida. Here, the sole purpose of a retainer is to assure the client that he will have your expertise for some time during the month. For this you should be paid. If only because you will not be able to take that fat-fee, onsite only, 3 month job in Boston. I use the above example because my father's weekly fee was probably for 3 hours work. This paid for his effort to make sure the car was gassed, the tool box ready, etc. And ensured his availablity. Jim Ussailis jim at nationalwireless.com PS My how times have changed. My father got $9 / week plus part of the phone bill. This time of the year he went thru that $9 worth and then some every week. Ocassionally he would 'babysit' a greenhouse or apt block all night long. Original Message: ----------------- From: Jeff Rutherford jeff at jeffrutherford.com Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:07:18 -0500 To: paul at alias-solutions.com, Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net Subject: [Hidden-tech] Retainers ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee. ** You too can help the group ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. ** If you did, we all thank you. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web