[Hidden-tech] Looking for MySQL cluster guru, low cost 1 or 2 U Linux servers, short term (1 month) server rental

Andy Klapper andytk at charter.net
Mon Feb 4 12:54:16 EST 2008


Rich,

When I saw that it was virtual I had some worries on the issues you
expressed below.  If I cannot setup what I need, that is one thing, on the
other hand it is so cheap vs. buying ($2k per box vs. $70 per month of
usage), that it at least seems like a good sandbox to play in.  If nothing
else I should be able to get "proof of concept" and a general range of
needed hardware for a lot less up front money.  Right now I'm all about
reducing up front money.


Andy.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rich [mailto:rich at on-the-net.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 11:17 AM
To: Michael Giles
Cc: Andy Klapper; Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Looking for MySQL cluster guru, low cost 1 or 2 U
Linux servers, short term (1 month) server rental

We have started using EC2 for prototype systems work - and have done a 
fair bit of Mysql Clustering work - using various setups.
And I really don't see how EC2 can be used for realistic prototype/bench 
mark as described in #3.

Two main reasons occur to me:
1) Ec2 is not a real machine - it is a virtual machine and I don't see 
how it can be compared with a similar setup of physical boxes,
if fact, how can you even determine what is similar

2) Depending on the exact Mysql clustering method you use (there are a 
number of alterative methods - note I use lower case cluster,
not any specific Mysql offering) - there are specific IP and hostname 
requirements for various load-balancing methods. Again
EC2 does not have this kind of 'hardware' or system control between 
machine 'instances'

In short to do a proper benchmark, there needs to be some measure of 
comparing apples to apples and ec2 to hardware boxes
is like apples to ducks - not even the same type of creature - IMHO

In my quick opinion anyway,
Rich

Michael Giles wrote:
>  Andy,
>
> #3 seems like a perfect use of Amazon's EC2 service 
> (http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?node=201590011).  Essentially, 
> you get as many dedicated servers as you want and you only pay for the 
> time that you use them (10 cents/hour).  If you use a server for a 
> whole month, I believe it works out to about $70.  But if you only use 
> it for an hour, or a day, you just pay for that fraction.  It is great 
> for just this type of work (where you want a relatively large number 
> of machines for a short amount of time).
>
> -Mike
>
> Andy Klapper wrote:
>>   I am looking for help finding:
>>
>> 1)  A MySQL cluster guru that I can talk to for an hour or two about 
>> MySQL
>> clustering configurations for performance, and redundancy.  Somebody 
>> with
>> actual experience with at least five clustered machines only.
>>
>> 2)  Recommendations for vendors selling low cost 1 or 2 U Linux servers.
>>
>> 3)  I am looking for a low cost way of using 16 to 24 Linux servers 
>> using
>> MySQL clustering and custom software for a performance 
>> test/verification of
>> concept test.  I doubt that this exists, but I'd like to rent the 
>> machines
>> for as little as two weeks to a month.
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help with any of this questions!
>>
>>
>> Andy.
>>
>>
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