[Hidden-tech] Re: unlocking cell phones - how's Sprint for 3G 'roundthese parts?

[Jeff Hobbs]

If you're just in it for the Google phone, you may want to consider getting
a contract-free developer version that you could use on whatever network you
choose:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081207-google-introduces-developer-g1-phones.html

(Not that you asked but: At this point, Android as a mobile platform has a
lot of promise but it's still pretty rough -- I'd take a hard look at an
iPhone as a mobile option as well.)

~Jeff

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>   1. To keep records or not to keep... | CLARIFICATION |
>      (DAVID F. FARKAS)
>   2. RE: unlocking cell phones - how's Sprint for 3G   'round  these
>      parts? (Arlen Collins)
>   3. Re: unlocking cell phones - how's Sprint for 3G   'roundthese
>      parts? (ussailis at shaysnet.com)
>   4. Re: unlocking cell phones - how's Sprint for 3G 'round    these
>      parts? (Chris Hoogendyk)
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> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:30:39 -0500
> From: "DAVID F. FARKAS" <david at farkas.com>
> Subject: [Hidden-tech] To keep records or not to keep... |
>        CLARIFICATION |
> To: <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
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> Hi folks...
>
> Thanx for all the ideas for HOW to keep records electronically rather
> than on paper. Some of the ideas on work flow and storage were great!
> I think I need to move to cloud computing for my CRM and apps so I
> can streamline a lot of my report / record keeping process.
>
> BUT... my real dilemma is whether to keep most of the notes at all. I
> ask clients for some photos and I use GoogleEarth pix for maps. But,
> other than contact info and a summary of findings before and after
> the work, I'm not sure why I need to keep all the scribbles from the
> process. They would need to be scanned to be included in electronic
> records.
>
> UNLESS... there are legal, marketing or other reasons I'm not considering?
>
> Since my work is unusual, it is to my advantage to have not records.
> Then nobody can challenge the process... which is esoteric and
> confusing to most people. As a child of the McCarthy era and of our
> litigious era, I'm wondering what advantage / disadvantages there are
> in keeping fewer notes. I can't claim clinician, fiduciary, or legal
> confidentiality either.
>
> Healers in indigenous cultures have clinics where they go from
> patient to patient doing their work and take no notes at all. They
> are not in the western world running a business... so I'm looking for
> a balance.
>
> If any of this makes sense and/or illuminates flashes of insight...
> please pass them along. If it does not... well, you see the problem, eh?
>
> Merry Everything and Happy Always!
> David
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> From: Arlen Collins <acollins at rxemedia.com>
> Subject: RE: [Hidden-tech] unlocking cell phones - how's Sprint for 3G
>        'round  these parts?
> To: <andrew at stakeholderscapital.com>, Hidden Tech
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> The good news is that T-Mobile has a decent policy for unlocking phones.
>  When I last checked, they required the phone be on an active plan for 3
> months.  My brother who lives in Indonesia half the year got them to do it
> immediately  when he got his new phone, but he had been a long term
> customer.  I also travel to Asia nd wanted the flexibility to install SIMs
> while there.  I got a T-Mobile pay as you go quad-band phone.  After 3
> months they gave me the code.  One thing you might want to try is going in
> and making their unlocking of the phone conditional on your signing up with
> T-Mobile.  It is a competitive business.
>
> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:51:15 -0500
> From: andrew at stakeholderscapital.com
> To: Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> CC:
> Subject: [Hidden-tech] unlocking cell phones - how's Sprint for 3G 'round
>     these parts?
>
> Dear HT,
>
> I would like to try the new T-Mobile Google phone.  I plan to switch to
> T-Mobile in January from Verizon and get the phone with a 1 or 2 yr.
> contract.
>
> But this Verizon phone # is not my primary number, it's my wife's.
>
>
> Therefore, I want to unlock the G-phone so I can use it with my other
> carrier, ATT.  Both ATT & T-Mobile are GSM so I think compatibility should
> not be an issue.
>
> I have had a phone unlocked before.  I used eBay to find a vendor but would
> rather do that locally, if possible.
>
>
> Part two of the plan, is to maybe switch to Sprint from ATT in June 2009,
> when that plan expires, so I can get the $99 deal: unlimited voice, data, &
> text.
>
> Anybody use Sprint around here?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew
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> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:23:04 -0500
> From: "ussailis at shaysnet.com" <ussailis at shaysnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] unlocking cell phones - how's Sprint for 3G
>        'roundthese parts?
> To: site-hidden-tech at sherbang.com, andrew at stakeholderscapital.com,
>        hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
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> Another issue is where you plan to use a T-Mobile phone. Not everywhere in
> the Valley, and not at all in some hilltowns.
>
> I have a T-Mobile phone and battle with the problem.
>
> Jim Ussailis
>
> jim at nationalwireless.com
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> Original Message:
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> From: Brian Johnson site-hidden-tech at sherbang.com
> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:18:48 -0500
> To: andrew at stakeholderscapital.com, Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] unlocking cell phones - how's Sprint for 3G
> 'roundthese parts?
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> andrew bellak wrote:
> > Dear HT,
> >
> >
> > I would like to try the new T-Mobile Google phone.  I plan to switch
> > to T-Mobile in January from Verizon and get the phone with a 1 or 2
> > yr. contract.
> >
> > But this Verizon phone # is not my primary number, it's my wife's.
> >
> > Therefore, I want to unlock the G-phone so I can use it with my other
> > carrier, ATT.  Both ATT & T-Mobile are GSM so I think compatibility
> > should not be an issue.
> >
> > I have had a phone unlocked before.  I used eBay to find a vendor but
> > would rather do that locally, if possible.
> >
> > Part two of the plan, is to maybe switch to Sprint from ATT in June
> > 2009, when that plan expires, so I can get the $99 deal: unlimited
> > voice, data, & text.
> >
> > Anybody use Sprint around here?
>
> T-Mobile and AT&T use different 3G frequencies. As a result the G1 will
> work on AT&T but will _not_ do 3G (high speed data).
>
> There is another Google Android phone about to be released in January
> that will work on AT&T's 3G network, but not T-Mobile's. It's the Kogan
> Agora
> http://www.kogan.com.au/shop/android-powered-kogan-agora-3G-mobile-phone/
> This phone is sold unlocked so you wont have to bother with that part.
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> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:17:12 -0500
> From: Chris Hoogendyk <hoogendyk at bio.umass.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] unlocking cell phones - how's Sprint for 3G
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> If you want to be socially conscious, go with Credo (used to be Working
> Assets Wireless). They use the sprint network. They currently have a
> deal where you can get a Solio solar recharger along with a phone with a
> 2 year contract. We have used them for years, and everyone in my family
> has their own cell phone line. Every year you can participate in the
> voting to determine what causes profits get contributed to.
>
> Nobody has total coverage, but I've been happy with ours. Ours drops off
> when we go down the hill south of the main shopping areas of
> Northampton. Picks back up if we are high in the building or get back up
> on the main drag. I think the towers are probably on north King Street.
> I actually got coverage once on a southwest facing slope of a mountain
> along the N.H. border of Maine. We were coming over the top after a
> couple of days of backpacking, dead tired, and decided to try and call
> our favorite B&B to see if they had a room available. It worked.
> Leverette is sort of like that. You have to be on the right bend of the
> road for any cell phone to work.
>
>
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