This week I contacted Yes Computers to ask this very question. They indicate that they have not had any computers serviced for virus infection / spyware etc... and indicated that they believed that at this time this was not an issue. I do not run any 3rd party apps to protect my system at the moment. Michael Aronson Consumer Exports Group, Inc. On Dec 5, 2008, at 1:47 PM, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: > ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's > area. > ** If you did, we all thank you. > > > > > andrew bellak wrote: >> okay, so here's a quick poll / survey question: >> >> if you run Mac, do you use 3rd party ant-spyware and/or anti-virus >> software? Is anything built in into Leopard (OSX)? >> >> since I'm usually behind a modem, then a wireless router, I've been >> advised that it's redundant and just slows one's machine. > > Good replies from Roger and Robert. > > For some time I have not trusted the anti virus software sold for > Macs. They seemed to cause more trouble than they prevented. While > Virex was originally developed on the Mac many years ago (long > before Mac OS X), it was bought out by McAfee (a PC software > company). In such cases, Mac software doesn't fare very well. > Another prime example is Retrospect. That was once one of the best > software products anywhere. It was bought out by EMC several years > ago, and both development and support have seriously languished. It > seems to be dying the long slow death of neglect. > > I think that the primary threat on Macs is user behavior. The OS and > applications like Firefox try to provide protections, but the user > is the boss. So, download an executable from the web and the OS will > issue a warning when you try to run it. But, you can still say, > "yes, I want to run it." > > So, in the interest of user education and in parallel with the link > I posted the other day to the NSA Security Guides, those who want to > learn more about how to avoid risky behavior should check out the > CERT Security Tips -- http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/tips/ -- There is a > huge amount of stuff there. Since this is the shopping season, check > out particularly the tips related to Shopping Safely Online and > Browsing Safely. Whether it says so in those or not, I never do > activities that involve money or secure information on public > wireless networks. > > > -- > --------------- > > Chris Hoogendyk > > - > O__ ---- Systems Administrator > c/ /'_ --- Biology & Geology Departments > (*) \(*) -- 140 Morrill Science Center > ~~~~~~~~~~ - University of Massachusetts, Amherst > <hoogendyk at bio.umass.edu> > > --------------- > Erdös 4 > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion > list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the > Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members ATG Worldwide 413-306-4504 atgworldwide at comcast.net