[Hidden-tech] An Idea about Email
Matt Lampiasi
mattl at florenceit.net
Tue Aug 26 10:25:46 EDT 2008
Interestingly I setup a gmail account a few months ago for testing and
have received over 100 spams on that account and have never even used it.
My main email address gets VERY little spam (maybe less than 10 a wk)
and Ive used it for 4 years. I consider having disposable email accounts
(like yahoo and gmail in my case) necessary, as nobody except my regular
contacts ever gets my real email.
Joseph Steig wrote:
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> I received over 88,000 Spam messages in the last 30 days! Just checked
> my Spam "folder" which I never normally do.
>
> And almost NONE of them came into my inbox--perhaps a dozen a day at
> most on a bad day.
>
> I use Google's GMail. I have seven e-mail addresses that neatly flow
> into one inbox. I have only ONCE in the last year had Google
> incorrectly identify something as SPAM--I never normally check my Spam
> "folder". ("Folder" is in quotes because GMail doesn't actually use
> folders but rather uses tags.)
>
> I sound like an advertisement for Google, but with Google in my life,
> Spam no longer exists as a concern for me--it's Google's worry and
> they handle it beautifully.
>
> And yes I know, Sergey and Larry and the CIA are reading my e-mail.
> But small price to pay . . .
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> joseph at steig.com <mailto:joseph at steig.com> | 617-500-7376 EST
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> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Matthew Crocker <matthew at crocker.com
> <mailto:matthew at crocker.com>> wrote:
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> On Aug 25, 2008, at 4:45 PM, ussailis at shaysnet.com
> <mailto:ussailis at shaysnet.com> wrote:
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> Here's an idea.
>
> Since I have become the owner of Shaysnet, I have had a chance
> to look at a
> lot of spam. What I have observed is many of my users get the
> same stuff.
> So, couldn't there be a program that says "if X users (let X
> be some
> reasonable number like 4) get the same mail, it is spam,
> therefore deal
> with it"
>
>
> Thousands of my users are on the same mailing lists so they get
> the same messages. If I deleted identical mail after the 4th
> message I would have a lot of angry customers.
>
>
> Of course my "deal with it" would be to collect all the spam
> for one day
> and send it all back to the first spammer of that day. If
> enough ISPs did
> this...
>
>
> All spam comes from a bogus sender address and if you send the
> spam back to the address in the e-mail you become a spammer
> yourself. This is called a 'Joe Job'
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_job
>
> I switched @crocker.com <http://crocker.com> & @the-spa.com
> <http://the-spa.com> over to Postini about a year ago and haven't
> looked back. fighting spam was a full time job for me, eating up
> huge resources in bandwidth and CPU. I used to have 10 high end
> machines getting crushed by spam (greylisters, dedicated DNS,
> spamassassin, anti-virus ...) now with Postini I have 4 (2
> inbound SMTP & 2 POP/IMAP toasters). I have 2 full GigE
> connections to the Internet in Springfield, you would be amazed
> how much bandwidth spammers could eat up if you let them. I
> regularly had several hundred mbps hitting my mail servers causing
> a huge log jam and backing up mail for hours.
>
> I'm 1000% better off letting Postini handle my inbound spam.
> They have more resources (owned by Google) to both deal with the
> spam and handle the legal aspects of tracking down the culprits.
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim Ussailis
>
>
>
> Original Message:
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> From: htcontact at town-websites.com
> <mailto:htcontact at town-websites.com>
> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:48:58 -0600
> To: ssol at interactiveguild.com
> <mailto:ssol at interactiveguild.com>,
> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
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> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] An Idea about Email
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> I think the spam problem can be best attacked on ths technical
> side.
>
> The protocols for email were established long before anyone
> imagined SPAM
> would become such a problem. There have been a patchwork of
> afterthought
> spam interventions, by ISPs, by email services, and at the end
> user's PC,
> but email by and large continues to use a patchwork on top of
> old protocols
> not suited to the task. I haven't ever really looked at the
> protocols,
> certainly not recently, but I think a starting point should be
> something
> like a real identity registration that can be verified,
> something like DNS
> registration, so you could tell the true source of email
> without having to
> use heuristics to guess at the identity or what the content is.
>
> Even venturing at an design gets complicated enough to require
> a task force
> and years of discussions, never mind implementation. But I
> think a better
> technology could make it easier to weed out spammers - through
> legal means
> or simpler, more accurate screening; while also having a
> lighter impact on
> small organizations and business that need reliable ability to
> contact
> their clients than the current patchwork.
>
> Charlie Heath
> Town Websites
>
>
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