[Hidden-tech] An Idea about Email

Robert Heller heller at deepsoft.com
Tue Aug 26 09:04:54 EDT 2008


At Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:45:11 -0400 ussailis at shaysnet.com wrote:

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> Here's an idea.
> 
> Since I have become the owner of Shaysnet, I have had a chance to look at a
> lot of spam. What I have observed is many of my users get the same stuff.
> So, couldn't there be a program that says "if X users (let X be some
> reasonable number like 4) get the same mail, it is spam, therefore deal
> with it"

Spamassassin + Mime-Defang

> 
> Of course my "deal with it" would be to collect all the spam for one day
> and send it all back to the first spammer of that day. If enough ISPs did
> this...

That is a waste of time.  Spam rarely has a valid return address or
rarely has the return address of the spammer.   


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> Jim Ussailis
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> Original Message:
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> From:  htcontact at town-websites.com
> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:48:58 -0600
> To: ssol at interactiveguild.com, hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] An Idea about Email
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> I think the spam problem can be best attacked on ths technical side.
> 
> The protocols for email were established long before anyone imagined SPAM
> would become such a problem.  There have been a patchwork of afterthought
> spam interventions, by ISPs, by email services, and at the end user's PC,
> but email by and large continues to use a patchwork on top of old protocols
> not suited to the task.  I haven't ever really looked at the protocols,
> certainly not recently, but I think a starting point should be something
> like a real identity registration that can be verified, something like DNS
> registration, so you could tell the true source of email without having to
> use heuristics to guess at the identity or what the content is.
> 
> Even venturing at an design gets complicated enough to require a task force
> and years of discussions, never mind implementation.  But I think a better
> technology could make it easier to weed out spammers - through legal means
> or simpler, more accurate screening; while also having a lighter impact on
> small organizations and business that need reliable ability to contact
> their clients than the current patchwork.
> 
> Charlie Heath
> Town Websites
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