Yes, the sun does radiate at low frequencies and the whole spectrum up to UV and probably gamma radiation. Most of the solar energy is in the visable region, we think. At least that is what penetrates the atmosphere. ----- After reading all the emails, I have some more comments: 1. Microwaves do not appear to cause ionizing radiation. That's the stuff thyat is known to cause cancer. The field from your 60 Hz electric power line also does not cause ionizing radiation. Ionizing radiation only occurs at the higher frequencies, where quantum lines exist. Only 2 exist in the microwave band; a hydrogen line at 1.4 GHz (I believe it is a spin flip), and the water line frequency at 22.235 GHz. 2. There have been several articles on thre subject of authorship of heath issue articles in pear reviewed medical journals in Microwaves Mag, and Antennas & Propagation Mag. These are the general interest journals of two of the IEEE societies, Microwaves and Antennas & Propagation. The upshot of the articles is the impact on heath consequences of microwave energy is highly dependant on who funded the research. With a bias toward those interested in the cell phone industry. Yes, there "might" be a problem. The 10 year study in Sweeden points to that. 3. The power that the body (or any object) receives varies as 1/(distance) squared. This means that buckets of power a thousand feet away can have much less effect compared to a headset next to your head. Bluetooth runs at a low power level. I believe 30 and 100 mW (milliwatts ot 1/1000 of a watt). Typical WiFi runs 100 mW. Some units run 200 mW. If you are worried, then go to the WiFi setup program and tell the computer you are in the EU. Why? Because the max power allowed for the applicxation is 1 Watt in the US & Canada, 100 mW in Europe. I know of no laptop WiFi units that run more than 200 mW. The power from a cell phone depends on how far you are from the tower. It has power mamagement circuitry in the phone, which cranks up the power if the received signal from the tower is weak. I believe the max is on order of 2 watts. This is a good case for having an outside, roof mounted, antenna for your cell phone in your car. It keeps the antenna away from you head, and the car body offers a bit of shielding. The phone also works better, so the power management circuit lowers....etc. 4. The 60 Hz line All the wires that you come near should be in pairs, that is one for each side of the line. If that is the case, then the wires become a "transmission line," similar to the transmission line from an antenna to your TV (that's before cable). Ideally, transmission lines do not radiate. I would expect a bit of radiation from the AC lines in a house, but very little. High power lines radiate more because there is high power. But they are placed farther away from where people can get to, so the radiation is reduced (remember that 1/distance squared thing above) Some have said that the 60 Hz line in the typical home radiales magnetic fields at a level of up to 1 Gauss. This mayby true, but the magnetic field of the Earth is about 1 Gauss. Although that is a static field, it doesn't bother us. 5. Magnetic vs electric fields This is a BS thing that even catches electrical engs. I have seen a prof on the web talk about a radiated magnetic field. If the field is radiated at all, it is electromagnetic. Both the magnetic and electric fields are combined into this one field. The study of this started as a way to explain the propagation of light. Maxwell brought together the individual workings of many scientists in the mid 1800s into a set of equations that describes light propagation. But, he found that there wasn't a frequency dependance in the set of equations. Hertz took note and decided to generate low frequency waves which we call radio. Even any radiated 60 Hz field is electromagnetic. If you read about a radiated magnetic (or electric) field, suspect BS. 6. I have read that there appears to be a problem with the modulation of radio signals, such as the pulsing that goes on in PCS cell phones. (PCS = Sprint, T-Mobile, and perhaps others) These phones use coding and time slicing to achieve many calls on a limited number of frequencies. They call it Code Division Multiple Access (CDMA) and Time Division Multiple Access (TDMA). There is another that is used called frequency... In short they change frequency, send bits of a call at different times, and use coding to send the information to the right address. And you thought you were talking in "real time." HA! The study appread to be valid. But after reading the source of funding study, I wonder. Jim Ussailis jim at nationalwireless.com Original Message:88 ----------------- From: Robert Heller heller at deepsoft.com Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 16:04:02 -0400 To: ussailis at shaysnet.com, sales at gaiahost.coop, hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net, heller at deepsoft.com Subject: RE: [Hidden-tech] Cell Phones and EMF Risks Study At Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:07:11 -0400 ussailis at shaysnet.com wrote: > > ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee. > ** You too can help the group > ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. > ** If you did, we all thank you. > > > I plan to read that report, but here is something that I have observed over > the past few years: > > The top engineers in the RF field that worked mostly in the low frequency > (LF) thru high frequency (HF) region (about 100 KHz to 30 MHz) are now > getting old. Typically they started in this business before WWII, and were > major players in the field during the War. Typical age at death is around > 100. A few make it to about 102. Some pass on in their 90s. > > While I am very concerned about microwave energy, I wonder about the lower > frequencies. I should live so long. The sun puts out a huge amount of the "lower frequencies", which is commonly observed as the 'static' between stations on the lower-bands (eg AM and FM broadcast, CB, and 'Short Wave' bands (eg common HAM radio frequencies). I think most lifeforms on Earth have adapted to these frequencies over the past million or so years. OTOH, the higher frequencies (microwaves), do tend to 'cook' things. And the high intensity and more 'concentrated' engergy put out by something like a cell phone is somewhat different that the random 'low level' background RF 'noise' produced by the sun. > > Jim Ussailis > jim at nationalwireless.com > > PS Keep in mind, that WiFi band is the home frequency of the microwave > oven. This frequency is not very far removed from the typical cell phone > frequency (2400 MHz vs 1900 MHz). > > > > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Charles Uchu Strader sales at gaiahost.coop > Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:33:13 -0400 > To: Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > Subject: [Hidden-tech] Cell Phones and EMF Risks Study > > > ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee. > ** You too can help the group > ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. > ** If you did, we all thank you. > > > I thought other hidden-tech'ers would be interested in this. > > ... > > Cell Phones and EMF Risks Study > > There are finally some long term studies coming out and the results are > not good. Please pass this on. > > A condensed look at the picture: > > - long term cell phone use (for as little as one hour per day) for 10 > years results in a 20 - 30% increased risk in two types of brain cancer > > - there is clear information that children are more at risk and should > never use them > > - the studies impact relates both to cell phones, but also common > cordless phones and other EMF emitting devices (like high power lines) > > To read more here's a good article about it, plus a link to the more > detailed reports coming from the Bioinitiative Working Group, which is > the international group of scientists that have done this research: > > good article on study: http://www.alternet.org/environment/65137/ > > the study: http://www.bioinitiative.org/ > > Also, here is a link to data on radiation levels coming from a range of > cell phones: > > http://earthpulse.com/src/subcategory.asp?catid=4&subcatid=4 > > > Now what to do with that information? And how to change? > > ~Charles Uchu > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web LIVE  Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - > http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > -- Robert Heller -- Get the Deepwoods Software FireFox Toolbar! 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