Fwd: [Hidden-tech] Question about list topics

[webmaster]

On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 11:24:32AM -0800, Tish Grier wrote:
> 
>    webmaster <webmaster at hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> 
>    As for being self-regulating and I have found those on the HT list who
>    most know better and should be self-regulating to be the ones that
>    drag
>    a discussion on the longest. So if you want a clean list, everyone
>    should help make it clean and consider when you are really adding to a
>    discussion before posting 'me too' or adding political comments.
 

Tish Wrote: 
>    This is a rather cutting assessment of the situation, Rich.  Really
>    kind of confrontational.  And perhaps the "me too" comments are a way
>    of letting others know something about how we think about a situation.
>    As I mentioned, we don't all know one another any more than all of us
>    have the same trouble handling the HT email we get.

Note, I added the "Tish Wrote' - see how these two postings actually look
the same -- just a pointer to how different email clients handle the
responses and how much variation there, related to comments below.

As the one who has to decide when or if to cut off a posting or a
discussion, a 'me too' added to a 60 line 3 level is way beyond telling
how someone thinks, it is plain sloppy.  And I can tell you I get
complaints no matter if I stop something early (why did you cut me off)
or late (this list has too much junk).  My main overall criteria is to
keep people on the list and contributing on topic.

Tish, As for confrontational - your comment below is rather, mine is
fact - those who know better have the responsibility to act better.
Those who are having trouble using email -- and there are many on the
list who do not live 'wired' as we do, are the bulk of the HT community. 

Since the bulk of the list never speak up on any topic, I see no
justification to your comment that 'we have the same trouble', I handle
100's of emails a day - yet, hitting del is not an issue for me. I
am more worried about those for whom the HT list is a life-line that needs
to be easy to use when needed.

Rich wrote: 
>    As for Forum only -- I have found we have a group of users, many of
>    who
>    are not of the techical level to effectively use forums (odd as that
>    might sound) -- and while RSS is a good idea - even more pushs the
>    techical boundries. Maybe in the future.


Tish Wrote: 
>    Oh, please.  The thing is there's lots of crappy Forum
>    interfaces/tools/software out there.  And it's pretty easy to burn a
>    feed.  None of this has to be rocket science these days, unless
>    there's a desireto make it that way.

That is just plain narrow minded - sure there are plenty of wonderful
improvements online and we have been trying to get people to use them,
with little results -- yet the list continues to draw the bulk of our
online traffic.  Email remains the killer ap and most convenient for
most people.

I repeat to everyone, stop complaining and step up and help. As for all
the good suggestions, all will be considered, we continue to improve,
time of skilled people is what is needed.

As for now, this topic is closed unless I see something really different.

Rich/WM