Briefly: kill the "doobee", keep the list as it is. I never saw notice of a doobee poll either. I'm with those who find the list an easy way to gain exposure to the HT group and to topics I might not yet have stumbled across, and I don't find the effort of deleting unwanted messages too great a burden. Conversely, accessing the HT website has always felt cumbersome, and the rewards on arriving there few to date. Reading through the responses on both sides, I get a clear sense that "push" vs. "pull" (or email vs. forum) is like other end-points that people distribute themselves between: dogs vs cats, mac vs pc, reds vs whites... It may not be possible to find a one-size-fits-all solution. Chris -- NOTE NEW STREET ADDRESS AS OF 1-DEC-2006 -- Chris Duncan, Ph.D. President GISmatters duncan at GISmatters.com http://www.gismatters.com/ 1 Tuckerman Ln Amherst, MA 01002 Tel: 413-549-2052 Fax: 508-637-2557