Hi Jim: Got a wireless unit to quote on. I will be at the CES Show next week. I will be available for a meeting on the 17th. in the afternoon. By the way, I had dinner at that new YUPPIE Place, It was a paint store when I lived in Florence just before Christmas.. Ron Lawrence Laision Representative Sumitronics www.sumitronics.com.sg -------------- Original message -------------- From: "ussailis at shaysnet.com" <ussailis at shaysnet.com> > ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee. > ** You too can help the group > ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. > ** If you did, we all thank you. > > > The IEEE Consultants' Networks does this very well: > > I pay $75/yr for the Boston network (about 80 members). For that I get a > searchable listing on their web site, and a listing in a directory, when it > is published. > > Problems with it: > > Folks who understand web design wrote the site. That took lots of time, as > they also have a business to run, bread to put on the table, etc. > > Someone else does the directory. Again same problem. That person isn't > paid, and paid work comes first. He, too has a family to feed. > > But, the business that I get makes it a bargin. I try to do my share of the > work, and attempt to be a speaker once a year at the monthly meeting in > Lexington. > > The national Alliance of IEEE Consultants' Networks (AICN), several hundred > members, charges $79/yr. For this I get a searchable web site. In the past > there was a booklet, then a CD, but I haven't seen the CD in a few years. > > Business thru this avenue was very good when there was a booklet. Dropped > with the CD only and the 2003 recession. Now there is less business...and > no CD. Possibly there is something there... > > The CT IEEE Consultants charges $25/yr. It is a small group with perhaps 20 > to 25 members. They have a hand-out sheet, a list on a web site, and a > phone number to call. The web site had a info sheet to fill out, which was > a great spam attractor. That is just changed. > > Not much business thru the CT group, but there is some. > > All in all, the IEEE Consultants Networks have changed my business from > starvation to fairly good. I average a living wage because of it, and the > contacts that have been generated...and the follow-on. > > I have given a presentation 8 times on how to be a consultant. Every time I > say that the IEEE CN is the cheapest, most effective advertising, that I > have found. > > Jim U. > > jim at nationalwireless.com > > > > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: webmaster webmaster at hidden-tech.net > Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:34:32 -0500 > To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Question about business promotions] > > > ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee. > ** You too can help the group > ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. > ** If you did, we all thank you. > > > Kathy and a number of others have responded to Amy's questions, > with a good discussion of what HT can/will/should do for 'members', > and exactly what 'members' means. > > This discussion will be continued in person in our Annual HT > self-introspective session in Feb. > > Also, since Kathy (and a few others) mentioned that others can't really > comment on Amy's request to remove the honorarium page unless they > can see it, so we have left it up for a few weeks. > > Also, a clarification - that text on the page is exactly what Amy > has in her company listing. > > In response, to Michael's comments - actually many people do 'register' > to get a complete listing, because all registering does is allow you > into the site for a full listing which prevents whole scale downloading > of member information list. The list for which we have many requests, for > the purpose of blant promotion. > > As for the need for a directory - very much so - first we need to settle > what is for free and what is (paid) member only, which needs all your input. > > As for the overall site comments, keep them coming, a number of people > have stepped up to do more work on the site and we need feedback from > the whole HT community as to where to focus. > > And yes we are all very thankful for Amy's contributions and wish to > properly > thank her -- any other suggestions as to how ? > > Rich the WM > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Question about business promotions > Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 18:22:49 -0500 > From: Kathy Reinig > To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > Hi Amy (and Hidden-Tech members), > > I'm not certain whether the page I found this morning is the one you > meant or not: under NEWS - under "Hidden Tech Founder Resigns for new > adventures in life". > > There I saw three links related to your resignation and what looked > like your standard short blurb used on programs for events meant to > promote member organizations. And I can see why you are concerned > it's not really the appropriate information for such a page. Better > would be something more specific to the skills you brought to the > formation of Hidden Tech and how they've helped shaped the organization. > > This mirrors more closely the policy used (or that I think is used - > I could be ill-informed) for this list. Mentioning your service > offerings while answering a related question is acceptable by posting > an unrequested advertisement is not. > > While I commend you for your concern over the issue of personal > promotion over that of other Hidden Tech companies, I would > respectfully suggest that the maintainers of the site delay pulling > the page as you requested for a week so that members interested in > discussing the issue can see what's being discussed. > > Kathy > > > Kathy Reinig > KJ Reinig Associates > quantitative research analysts > > Kathy.Reinig at KJReinig.com > +1 978 544 2194 > > > > On Jan 2, 2007, at 4:50 PM, A - Z International wrote: > > > ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee. > > ** You too can help the group > > ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. > > ** If you did, we all thank you. > > > > > >Hi all, > > > >Boy, was I surprised to find out I now have my own news listing and > >private page on the Hidden-Tech web site! > > > >Sure, I'm the founder and getting some praise is nice. But the > >truth be told, I built Hidden-Tech with the help of hundreds of > >you, starting with your president Jon Reed and every member of the > >steering committee who followed. You can read the history in the > >reports on the site, or in the ABOUT section (by the by . . .) > > > >But I do wonder at the wisdom of someone putting up a page for my > >business and listing my contact information. Unless EVERY board > >member and voting member gets that advantage, then I think this is > >unfair promotion. And, if I've been concerned about several major > >things, it's been that Hidden-Tech promote everyone not one person. > > > >So, why don't you all weigh in and tell me if this promotion is > >warranted. > > > >Do you want to see yourselves promoted this way too? > > > >Would you pay for your own promotional page? > > > >You can post thoughts to the list. In the meantime, I'm asking the > >steering committee to remove this special page in my honor until a > >policy is determined. > > > >best, > > > >Amy Zuckerman > >Hidden-Tech Founder > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > >Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > > >You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > >Discussion list. > >If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the > >Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > >http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > > > -- > Rich Roth > CEO On-the-net > > Bringing you complex online systems since the net was young > http://www.tnrglobal.com - http://www.on-the-net.com/rr/ > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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