[Hidden-tech] Music downloads

stephanie gelfan sgelfan at rcn.com
Mon Jan 1 15:37:38 EST 2007


there is a culture of stealing music via downloads and cd copying and not
considering it stealing.

Food for Thought in Amherst had a slow 10-yr death, as more and more college
students downloaded/copied from friends rather than buy records/tapes/CDs

I have had people tell me that they loved my CD, or one of my tapes so much
that they made lots of copies for their friends and family. They expected me
to be happy about it. It didn't even occur to them that every copy they made
was another .75 - $12 that I wouldn't be getting.
I have heard this same story from countless other composers and musicians.

As a studio musician in NY city in the 70s-early 90s, I first-hand
experienced the recording industry and Broadway go down the toilet.
Thousands of musicians have lost work, royalties, and residual money,  and
have had to do something else (usually computer-related) for a living
because of this.

Part of the reason there are less good new broadway shows is that many of
the people who might have created something new and wonderful have had to
make ends meet doing something else

Music that is put online by artists themselves for anyone to hear/download
for free is not the same as music that someone has put in a format that is
for sale, but someone else has made available online for free.

Until there is a good way for the creators and performers of music to get
their fair pay, please don't download for free stuff you should be buying.
Stealing is stealing, and it's not just from the big corporations; it's from
individuals.

stephanie
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Miller <ronsmiller at comcast.net>
To: Mary Malmros <malmros at verizon.net>
Cc: <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Music downloads


>    ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee.
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>
> I want to make several points:
>
> * There are many free downloads available on the Internet. This is not
> stealing. The artists provide these songs for free for exposure. Whether
> your kids who are looking for the latest and greatest would embrace this
> depends on the child and what kinds of music they like.
>
> * Casual copying is not the issue record companies make it to be. Out
> and out pirating and reselling *is* an issue, but going after casual
> copiers and mix makers just doesn't make sense.
>
> Remember, that sheet music publishers screamed when records were
> invented because the sheet music business would be suppressed, then the
> record companies screamed when radio developed because after all who
> would pay for a song, they could hear it for free. Last I heard the
> record companies and radio stations were still making money.
>
> The movie people screamed that when vhs tape and later DVDs developed,
> nobody would go to the movies. Last time I checked the movie producers
> were doing very well.
>
> Every time there is a technology shift, the powers that be scream and
> shout that they will be put out of business. Media companies have always
> suffered from a failure of imagination and today is no different. By
> embracing technology instead of fighting it, they have always found a
> way to make (even more) money. Movie producers often make more money
> from DVD sales, then they did from the original movie in the theaters.
>
> * Cassette mixes are no different than CD mixes, quality aside, the
> concept is *exactly* the same. Copying is copying is copying. In the 70s
> when I was making copies of my friends albums on cassettes or making
> favorites cassettes, I was doing the same thing people do with today's
> technology. The Internet and computer make everything easier, but the
> concept is no different. But when you look at the numbers that were
> thrown around post-Frampton Comes Alive in the 70s, you know that the
> records companies thrived. Technology did not kill the record companies
> then and it has not hurt them today as much as they want you to believe.
>
> * Finally, there are plenty of reasonably-priced legal outlets for
> downloading popular music, especially a song at a time. Record companies
> are finding once again that by embracing technology like iTunes and
> Rhapsody, they will find new revenue streams. The more things change...
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> Mary Malmros wrote:
> >   ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee.
> >   ** You too can help the group
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> >
> >
> > Fred Levine wrote:
> >> I've also wrestled with the morality of letting my kids download for
> >> free.
> >
> > I wouldn't allow it.  Period, end of discussion.  There is more to right
> > and wrong than whether you get caught.
> >
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