A few people replied asking what questions I have in particular. Nothing really, just saw some examples of websites made with that program and they seem really cool. I am not a programmer, but enjoy reading the discussion about it. On a related note, has anyone used any of the products from www. 37signals.com such as Backpack etc.? All the best, Jonathon Podolsky Producer at WholeHealthExpo.com Voice: 413.584.0010 Toll-Free: 877.WHE.EXPO Toll-Free: 877.943.3976 Fax: 413.586.5846 Click here for Whole Health Expo website including information about our events and applications On Feb 12, 2007, at 5:40 PM, Rich wrote: > ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee. > ** You too can help the group > ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. > ** If you did, we all thank you. > > > There is a major cost in moving to a new language -- and as Fred > says, ROR is a combination of language and framework, the real power > comes from what the framework provides -- the ROR team as done a > great job, it is a shame they are tied to the Ruby language - why ? > I won't get into language debates - for this discussion, all that > counts is that it is not commonly known and whole new world > for too many. > > As for PHP, there are a number of frameworks: > The two top ones (IMHO) are: > Symfony http://www.symfony-project.com/ > and Cake http://www.cakephp.org/ > > We did some work on a web interface to make Symfony even easier > it is at: http://conductor.tnrnet.com/ (the release set there > is a bit messy, there was a crack in server with the wiki and we > didn't reconstruct it all) > > If anyone would like to discuss symfony more, email me offline > > Rich > > hiddentec at p98n.com wrote: >> >> To clear up some confusion, "Ruby on Rails" is not a programming >> language, it's a framework for developing web applications that >> happens to be written in and targeted for the "Ruby" programming >> language: >> http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ >> >> There are some analogous Perl projects; e.g. Catalyst, and Jifty: >> http://www.catalystframework.org/ >> http://jifty.org >> >> The idea of all of these is to make it easier to create web-based >> applications by providing standard methods - and code - for doing >> things most web applications need to do - e.g. authentication, >> session management, etc. >> -Fred >> > > -- > Rich Roth > CEO On-the-net > > Bringing you complex online systems since the net was young > http://www.tnrglobal.com - http://www.on-the-net.com/rr/ > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the > Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >