True, except one has to factor in any fossil fuels used to power the plant that manufactured the bio-diesel, the fuel used by farm equipment to grow the source crop (and the fertilizer), any non-bio-diesel fuel used to move the crop from the farm to the factory, and from the factory to the pump. Bio-diesel made from used cooking grease I guess you could exclude the farm side of things, but you still have the factory fossil fuel consumption. For Ethanol this cost is surprisingly high. I'm sure in the end it's better than burning straight fossil fuels, and you could reduce the amount by running the farm equipment on bio-diesel, and get the power for the factory from a Nuclear power plant. But zero it is not. Andy. There is a very important point that is yet to be brought up. Biodiesel is zero-carbon cycle -- any CO2 it emits, was the CO2 the plants has absorbed from the air first; unlike fossil-diesel, which releases carbon which had been sequestered by the plants hundreds of millions years ago. So, *effectively*, the carbon emissions of biodiesel are zero. -- | Victor Danilchenko | Of course my password is the same as | | danilche at cs.umass.edu | my pet's name. My macaw's name was | | CSCF | 5-4231 | Q47pY!3, but I change it every 90 days. | _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members