This whole concept will now come under intense scrutiny. That is good. If there is anything that will come of it - or even offshoots from it, the right people are now examining it. Jim Synergy at EnergyMarshallPlan.US ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kopec" <t_e_k at comcast.net> To: <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Env/Tech: Water As Fuel > ** Be a Good Dobee and help the group, you must be counted to post . > ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. > > > As is usual, the efficiency question remains unanswered.. > > This requires energy input to work (to break apart the water), and at the > end of burning the resulting gas you have water again.. so, if it produces > more energy than it uses, you could run it on it's own output and have a > perpetual-motion machine. OTOH, if it produces less energy than it uses (in > keeping with the laws of thermodynamics as we know them), then it's just > another energy transport mechanism. > > I wish him luck, and I do hope he finds something interesting and useful > here.. but given that he seems to be willing to (at best) not correct > omission of or (at worst) actively hide the fact that a lot of energy has > to get put into the system to get something out, I'll stay on the skeptical > side of the fence for now. > > ...tom > > At 06:05 PM 6/11/2006, Shel Horowitz wrote: > > >Remarkable Fox-Florida segment on water-powered welding and vehicles. I > >was skeptical enough to play on Google; it's apparently real: > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >