[Hidden-tech] Env/Tech: Water As Fuel

[SynergyUS]

This is good input.  This whole concept will now come under intense
scrutiny.  That is good.  If
there is anything that will come of it - or even offshoots from it, the
right people are now examining it.

Jim

www.EnergyMarshallPlan.US
Synergy at EnergyMarshallPlan.US



----- Original Message -----
From: "David Korpiewski" <davidk at cs.umass.edu>
To: "Tom Kopec" <t_e_k at comcast.net>
Cc: <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Env/Tech: Water As Fuel


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> I've been researching different hydrogen technologies on the side and
> ran across this myself.  There was actually a CNN video that was on
> cnn.com not that long ago that talked about this.
>
> The company featured in the video is based out of Florida and is called
> "Hydrogen Technologies".  The way this works is they don't actually
> break apart the water, they simply restructure the molecule of water.
> By adding a catalyst to this restructured water (namely a small amount
> of regular gasoline), the "water" will burn.  They call this newly
> restructured water molecule "aquagen".  There are a few more sites out
> there that talk about aquagen, but none mention how to actually make it.
>    It has quite a bit of promise for sure.  But again, no catalyst, no
> burning water.
>
> The greatest feature of aquagen is that it takes a significantly less
> amount of electricity to restructure the atom rather than to rip it
> apart (as in electrolysis).  I think the stats were something like they
> could create 300 liters of aquagen for $7.50.   To create the same
> amount of pure hydrogen using electrolysis would cost significantly more
> than that.
>
> -David
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> Tom Kopec wrote:
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> > As is usual, the efficiency question remains unanswered..
> >
> > This requires energy input to work (to break apart the water), and at
> > the end of burning the resulting gas you have water again.. so, if it
> > produces more energy than it uses, you could run it on it's own output
> > and have a perpetual-motion machine. OTOH, if it produces less energy
> > than it uses (in keeping with the laws of thermodynamics as we know
> > them), then it's just another energy transport mechanism.
> >
> > I wish him luck, and I do hope he finds something interesting and useful
> > here.. but given that he seems to be willing to (at best) not correct
> > omission of or (at worst) actively hide the fact that a lot of energy
> > has to get put into the system to get something out, I'll stay on the
> > skeptical side of the fence for now.
> >
> > ...tom
> >
> > At 06:05 PM 6/11/2006, Shel Horowitz wrote:
> >
> >> Remarkable Fox-Florida segment on water-powered welding and vehicles.
> >> I was skeptical enough to play on Google; it's apparently real:
> >
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