[Hidden-tech] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

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Taxing is not a solution. How much do you want to pay? $0.50 $1.00? I use email for both business and personal communication. If it were taxed I'd cut down my time on the net. I'm sure others would too. And we HAVE to keep the government OUT of the net. They could kill it.
Rikk
Pinehurst Pictures & Sound
www.pinehurstpictures.com
> 
> From: "Andy Klapper" <andytk at charter.net>
> Date: 2006/02/17 Fri PM 05:19:21 EST
> To: <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
> Subject: RE: [Hidden-tech] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?
> 
>    ** Be a Good Dobee and help the group, you must be counted to post .
>    ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area.
> 
> 
> 
> I've always thought that the only real solution to spam was to put a small
> price on each email.  Small enough that your internet provider would absorb
> the cost for a reasonable number of emails per month, large enough that
> 100,000 to one response rates are no longer economical for the people that
> pay the spammers to spam.  Spammers don't spam for ha ha's, they do it
> because it costs very little to spam tens of millions of people, and if you
> can get 100 of them to buy your fake Viagra you've made a profit.  This
> doesn't mean that spam would go away, just be reduced to more targeted
> marking, just like what happens with snail mail.
> 
> Of course email within a system, say a company's own email server, would not
> get taxed.
> 
> The downside of course is that any organization that depends on free email
> would be hurt.  They could however switch to forums / bulletin boards.
> 
> I'm talking about taxing every email that enters the net.  Not the Goodmail
> system where you pay for the equivalent of certified mail.
> 
> 
> 
> Andy.
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net]On Behalf Of Rikk
> Desgres
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:50 PM
> To: Jonathan Dill; hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?
> 
> 
>    ** Be a Good Dobee and help the group, you must be counted to post .
>    ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area.
> 
> 
> All email will still get through, only the Goodmail will have a stamp or an
> icon next to it. Spammers will just pay the $0.025 for each email. They will
> figure it's still cheaper than USPS. I don't think it will help. As much as
> I hate spam, I'm NOT buying stock in Goodmail.
> 
> Rikk
> 
> 
> 
> on 2/17/06 1:22 PM, Jonathan Dill at jfdill at jfdill.com wrote:
> 
> >  ** Be a Good Dobee and help the group, you must be counted to post .
> >  ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area.
> >
> >
> > Has everyone heard about the changes planned by AOL, Yahoo! etc. to
> > require "certification" via Goodmail or just be blocked?  There will be
> > a fraction of a cent fee to send "bulk" e-mail messages.
> >
> > http://www.clickz.com/news/article.php/3581301
> >
> > http://www.goodmailsystems.com/
> >
> > What will happen to a mailing list such as this one?  Will AOL and
> > Yahoo! users just be out of luck or have to get an e-mail account with
> > another provider in order to receive mailing lists?  Maybe this mailing
> > list is small enough that the fees could be manageable, but I manage one
> > mailing list for a small business that has about 45,000 subscribers.  On
> > the surface, I guess the certification sounded like a good idea, but for
> > a lot of organizations, like this one or any of numerous all-volunteer
> > developer projects, it is going to put an unfair tax on e-mail.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
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