[Hidden-tech] Music downloads vs cassette

[mallets at mac.com]

Another point on cassettes and cds is that the RMA (recording musicans 
of america) the people who played on the records negotiated a % of all 
blank Cassetes and Cds sold so when you make copies people are payed. 
The artists and musicians, (not the POWERS THAT BE to them copying is 
small change)
On Dec 30, 2006, at 1:41 PM, Mitch Anthony wrote:

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> Great point about the difference between downloads and cassette 
> copying.
>
> I am a serious collector of music. (3000 vinyl albums, as many cds and 
> 500 gigs of mp3s.  Back in the day I was a serious maker of mix tapes. 
> Today I'm a serious maker of compilations.
>
> But here's the difference: back when we copied from vinyl (great 
> fidelity) to tape (lousy fidelity and a lot of background noise) we 
> were stepping down in fidelity.  The result?  Study after study showed 
> that tapers and tape sharers bought more records and CDs than anyone 
> else.  During that time sales of records (then CDs) grew year after 
> year.  Because if I heard a song on tape I liked I wanted it for my 
> collection.  But I wanted it in the best quality format available,  
> and that wasn't tape. So I'd here it on tape then go buy the record.
>
> But with mp3s there is NO loss of quality as you "share" (save the 
> loss suffered when converted to mp3 the first time, but most stereo 
> systems aren't good enough to detect the difference). The result is 
> obvious.  If you share an mp3 with me and I want it, I've got it.  I 
> have no incentive to buy it. Hence the decline of Cd sales year after 
> year.
>
> No easy answers here, but I agree with Mr. Mallet.mac.  The artist 
> must be considered when trading digital files.
>
> P.S.  The record industry is another story.  They are getting their 
> own after decades of unfair and exploitive business practices.
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 30, 2006, at 12:46 PM, Kelley Slater wrote:
>
>> gee I am beginning to feel a bit guilty here for recommending 
>> limewire. Way back when, before file sharing upset the powers that 
>> be,(and cold hard cash was such a motivator) kids would make 
>> cassettes, does any one remember ever seeing a dual cassette player 
>> in the 70's or 80's?? Now that I see all the forwards from hidden 
>> tech users stating that file sharing sends a 'bad message' I am 
>> wondering, as I sat as a youth recording songs from the radio, were 
>> my parents considered sending a bad message?And what about the stereo 
>> companies, pushing the cassette industry, or for that matter blank 
>> VCRs to 'never miss a program again'? Nobody seems to remember those 
>> things lately.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch Anthony" 
>> <mitch at element22.com>
>> To: "Hidden Tech" <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Music downloads
>>
>>
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>>> I agree that it sends a bad message to a kid that "music is free".  
>>> In our house my daughter set up an ITunes account using my credit 
>>> card which we reconcile against her allowance. It's been fascinating 
>>> watching the growth of her very judiciously selected collection.
>>>
>>> Another great option is emusic.com. This subscription service 
>>> charges $10 a month for up to 40 song downloads. Not only is it much 
>>> cheaper than ITunes, it also has many more independent and 
>>> international artists. And you can sleep at night knowing that 
>>> appropriate royalties have been paid to the artists...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 29, 2006, at 8:17 PM, mallets at mac.com wrote:
>>>
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>>>> Just Pay the 99 cents and let the people who wrote the music 
>>>> collect their meager royalty
>>>>   stealing intellectual property is not moral
>>>> On Dec 29, 2006, at 3:35 PM, DAVID F. FARKAS wrote:
>>>>
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>>>>> My daughter wants to download MP3 songs free (of course) for her 
>>>>> iPod and is Googling like crazy. We found file sharing which feels 
>>>>> like the old Napster debacle and some download sites from old 
>>>>> names like Kaaza.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm hoping someone on the list knows which of the many options are 
>>>>> safe and easy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanx.
>>>>> Merry Everything and Happy Always
>>>>> David
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