Tom, I would actually charge the full rate. I'm assuming here that the customer asked you to be part of the conference call. This was time you couldn't perform any work for any other customer or work on getting new customers or work on the mechanics of running a business or even veg in front of the television. In short the customer asked for an hour of your time and should have expected to have to pay for it. Now things do get murky at the start of the relationship with a customer. Do you charge for your first meeting with the customer? (I would say generally no, unless the customer is getting some value out of the initial meeting) Do you charge for the time spent coming up with a proposal for a customer? (I would yes if the customer is getting some value out of the proposal (i.e. a design and/or schedule that they can then give to somebody else for implementation), no if it's just a standard rate schedule that provides no value to the customer). Andy. -----Original Message----- From: hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net [mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net]On Behalf Of Tom at Reelife Productions Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:29 PM To: Hidden-Tech Subject: [Hidden-tech] What to charge for conference call Ok, folks, I have a similar question regarding my time spent (1 full hour) on my cellphone (nodding my head to noone) and saying about 12 words. Do you think the company would be outraged if I charged them $40 (1/2 my normal rate) for my time? Is there a generally accepted rule for this kind of thing? <?fontfamily><?param Palatino><?smaller><?smaller><?smaller>Regards, Tom Adams Director/Owner Reelife Documentary Productions "cool digital video stuff...not boring or dumb" 413.575.9707 info at reelifeproductions.com www.reelifeproductions.com Williamsburg, MA, USA<?/smaller><?/smaller><?/smaller><?/fontfamily> On May 3, 2005, at 5:37 PM, matthew at the-spa.com wrote: ** Be a Good Dobee and help the group ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. ** Remember you must be counted to post . i forgot to add that everything would also vary based on how much they are charging the client for this 24x7 service. matthew ---- Original Message ---- From: Ed at edbride-pr.com To: Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] What to charge for emergency support ? Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 14:41:37 -0400 ** Be a Good Dobee and help the group ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. ** Remember you must be counted to post . Charge for wearing beeper? I don't think so, anymore than you'd charge for keeping a cellphone nearby. You're charging for your time, the beeper just makes it easier for the client to find you. First responder vs. later in the chain? Depends on how much you want the work. If you prefer to have someone else look at the problem first, they may, in fact, be able to fix it, so you'll get more sleep but less money. So, that's a conscious choice you get to make. The structure seems fine to me, although I don't know the $$ part of the equation. But I should think that midnight-6am and weekends probably justify 2x your normal hourly rate. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Klapper" <andytk at charter.net> To: <Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:59 AM Subject: [Hidden-tech] What to charge for emergency support ? ... The questions are; * Does the structure that they propose seem right? (Seems reasonable to me, but I've never done this before and want to avoid any gotchas that others may have learned the hard way). * What would reasonable rates be for wearing a beeper, getting a call at 4am in the morning, and then for performing the work? (2x normal rate, 3x, 5x?) * Do I want to be the first responder or have somebody else look at the problem first? (I'm thinking no, I'd rather sleep if possible). .... _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20050504/be2a08e5/attachment-0006.html