[Hidden-tech] A complicated Mac/Quark scenerio - help!

Will Loving will at lovingcomputing.com
Mon Jun 27 19:41:21 EDT 2005


The beige Minitower is officially supported only up to 10.2.x  You can use
XPostFacto (check VersionTracker.com) to make it run 10.3 though I've had
mixed results doing this. Sometimes it works just fine, other times there
are weird issues that crop up. The only way to know is to try it. There are
also issues about having to partition the hard drive into two sections (with
the first one less then 8GB) and install the OS in that first partition.

Keep in mind that 10.3/10.4 does best with lots of RAM and that you will
likely need to buy more RAM for the MT. I noted a significant increase in
performance when I took my 2.5Ghz G5 from the stock 0.5GB of RAM to 1.5GB.

I don't recommend QuarkXPress 5 it was buggy and most people skipped it
because of that.

You might also consider getting used either a Blue & White G3 or a G4 tower,
either of which can had for a few hundred dollars. The G4 towers in
particular are exceptionally upgradeable, so you can get a slower less
expensive one now and then add a much faster processor down the line.

You say "don't go there" about buying a new or at least newer machine, but I
would suggest that you really should consider it. If, as it appears you make
your living working on your computer and a newer machine saves you even 10%
in time, it will pay for itself in no time.

I used to upgrade my computer about every 2.5 years because the software I
was using ran significantly better and faster on the newer machine. This
last round, with a Blue & White G3, I managed to make it last 5 years by
adding in larger drives, more RAM and a G4 processor card. I finally made
the decision last fall to purchase a new machine when a friend, who also
does graphic design for a living and works all day in Quark and Photoshop,
watched me working and commented: "You know, you'd save an hour a day (over
your current system) if you had a G5". He was absolutely right and it was
worth every penny.

Will Loving


on 6/27/05 5:49 PM, Diane H K at artdirector.diane at comcast.net wrote:

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> This list has been very helpful in the past with my outdated Mac/Quark
> questions. I've got another one for you:
> 
> My husband (a traditional and digital media book illustrator) surprised
> the heck out of me last week when he purchased a brand-new dual G5 Mac
> running Mac OS 10.3 (also came with OS 10.4, which I will install this
> evening). Previously, he'd been using a beige G3 minitower with OS 9.1.
> I'm using an 8600/G3 (that's an XLR8 MACh Carrier G3 card) with Mac OS 9.1.
> 
> I have QuarkXPress 4.1 which I can run on both Macs running OS 9.1.
> 
> I want to buy a Quark upgrade, and here's where I need your advice.
> 
> I'll retire my 8600/G3. That's a given. The beige G3 minitower still has
> a lot of gumption in it. What is the latest version of Mac OS 10 that
> will run on this particular G3? Does anyone know? I'm clueless.
> 
> I have the choice of upgrading Quark from my current 4.1 right to 6.5,
> bypassing 5.0 completely. 6.5 will run on OS 10.3/10.4, but the specs on
> the Quark website indicate it won't run on anything less than 10.3.
> However, there is a very good chance that my husband will be so in love
> with the G5 that I won't be able to use it much at all, despite his
> protestions to the contrary. I know him too well to believe him on that point.
> 
> Therefore, I'll be spending all my time with that beige G3 minitower. I
> suspect that the G3 probably can't support OS 10.3, and I'd be better
> served, in that case, by purchasing the 5.0 Quark upgrade.
> 
> So, my ultimate choice between buying Quark 5.0 upgrade or buying Quark
> 6.5 upgrade (bypassing 5.0) hinges in a big way on what OS that beige G3
> MT can support.
> 
> Now that you have the whole wretched scenerio, can you offer me any
> answers to my questions or any advice? And no, I can't buy another G5, so
> please don't even go there.
> 
> Thanks, list folk, for your help and brainpower.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Diane H K
> 
> Greenfield, Ma.
> 
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