[Hidden-tech] A complicated Mac/Quark scenerio - help!

[Trace Meek]

I'm still stuck on a G4 iMac (and a G3 PowerBook).

The G5 chip (manufactured by IBM -- 
http://www.apple.com/g5processor/ibmprocess.html) apparently does run 
mighty hot; perhaps this is one of the reasons why we haven't yet seen 
a G5 PowerBook.

I suspect that Apple's recent revelation about switching to Intel chips 
(http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/jun/06intel.html) might be 
intended to address this issue, among others.


On Jul 8, 2005, at 10:44 AM, kreekle at kreekle.com wrote:

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> I was wondering if anyone has had problems with G5s. I've heard that 
> the fans are inadequate and there are problems with overheating.
> This may have only been a problem when they first came out.
>
> Also, other people have said this but I thought I'd mention that Quark 
> 5 is really buggy. I'd go to 6.5 or stay with 4.1.
>
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> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] A complicated Mac/Quark scenerio - help!
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:41:21 -0400
> From: Will Loving <will at lovingcomputing.com>
> To: Diane H K <artdirector.diane at comcast.net>,
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> The beige Minitower is officially supported only up to 10.2.x  You can 
> use
> XPostFacto (check VersionTracker.com) to make it run 10.3 though I've 
> had
> mixed results doing this. Sometimes it works just fine, other times 
> there
> are weird issues that crop up. The only way to know is to try it. 
> There are
> also issues about having to partition the hard drive into two sections 
> (with
> the first one less then 8GB) and install the OS in that first 
> partition.
>
> Keep in mind that 10.3/10.4 does best with lots of RAM and that you 
> will
> likely need to buy more RAM for the MT. I noted a significant increase 
> in
> performance when I took my 2.5Ghz G5 from the stock 0.5GB of RAM to 
> 1.5GB.
>
> I don't recommend QuarkXPress 5 it was buggy and most people skipped it
> because of that.
>
> You might also consider getting used either a Blue & White G3 or a G4 
> tower,
> either of which can had for a few hundred dollars. The G4 towers in
> particular are exceptionally upgradeable, so you can get a slower less
> expensive one now and then add a much faster processor down the line.
>
> You say "don't go there" about buying a new or at least newer machine, 
> but I
> would suggest that you really should consider it. If, as it appears 
> you make
> your living working on your computer and a newer machine saves you 
> even 10%
> in time, it will pay for itself in no time.
>
> I used to upgrade my computer about every 2.5 years because the 
> software I
> was using ran significantly better and faster on the newer machine. 
> This
> last round, with a Blue & White G3, I managed to make it last 5 years 
> by
> adding in larger drives, more RAM and a G4 processor card. I finally 
> made
> the decision last fall to purchase a new machine when a friend, who 
> also
> does graphic design for a living and works all day in Quark and 
> Photoshop,
> watched me working and commented: "You know, you'd save an hour a day 
> (over
> your current system) if you had a G5". He was absolutely right and it 
> was
> worth every penny.
>
> Will Loving
>
>
> on 6/27/05 5:49 PM, Diane H K at artdirector.diane at comcast.net wrote:
>
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>> This list has been very helpful in the past with my outdated Mac/Quark
>> questions. I've got another one for you:
>>
>> My husband (a traditional and digital media book illustrator) 
>> surprised
>> the heck out of me last week when he purchased a brand-new dual G5 Mac
>> running Mac OS 10.3 (also came with OS 10.4, which I will install this
>> evening). Previously, he'd been using a beige G3 minitower with OS 
>> 9.1.
>> I'm using an 8600/G3 (that's an XLR8 MACh Carrier G3 card) with Mac 
>> OS 9.1.
>>
>> I have QuarkXPress 4.1 which I can run on both Macs running OS 9.1.
>>
>> I want to buy a Quark upgrade, and here's where I need your advice.
>>
>> I'll retire my 8600/G3. That's a given. The beige G3 minitower still 
>> has
>> a lot of gumption in it. What is the latest version of Mac OS 10 that
>> will run on this particular G3? Does anyone know? I'm clueless.
>>
>> I have the choice of upgrading Quark from my current 4.1 right to 6.5,
>> bypassing 5.0 completely. 6.5 will run on OS 10.3/10.4, but the specs 
>> on
>> the Quark website indicate it won't run on anything less than 10.3.
>> However, there is a very good chance that my husband will be so in 
>> love
>> with the G5 that I won't be able to use it much at all, despite his
>> protestions to the contrary. I know him too well to believe him on 
>> that point.
>>
>> Therefore, I'll be spending all my time with that beige G3 minitower. 
>> I
>> suspect that the G3 probably can't support OS 10.3, and I'd be better
>> served, in that case, by purchasing the 5.0 Quark upgrade.
>>
>> So, my ultimate choice between buying Quark 5.0 upgrade or buying 
>> Quark
>> 6.5 upgrade (bypassing 5.0) hinges in a big way on what OS that beige 
>> G3
>> MT can support.
>>
>> Now that you have the whole wretched scenerio, can you offer me any
>> answers to my questions or any advice? And no, I can't buy another 
>> G5, so
>> please don't even go there.
>>
>> Thanks, list folk, for your help and brainpower.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Diane H K
>>
>> Greenfield, Ma.
>>
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