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<blockquote>Of course AI-generated is different from plagiarism</blockquote>
actually there is little difference when the content is inserted into the AI result that was taken from text <br> collected by the LLM technology from some place in 'the cloud'.<br> Exactly what legal issue there is has yet to be established via legal precedent.
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<div>There are a few AI checkers out there.</div>
<div>I just tried it successfully on a Gemini-generated short story<br><a href="https://www.zerogpt.com/" target="_blank">https://www.zerogpt.com/</a><br><br> And this seems useful.<br><a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/i-tested-10-ai-content-detectors-and-these-3-correctly-identified-ai-text-every-time/" target="_blank">https://www.zdnet.com/article/i-tested-10-ai-content-detectors-and-these-3-correctly-identified-ai-text-every-time/</a></div>
<div>Of course AI-generated is different from plagiarism.</div>
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 2:50 PM AI Zuckerman via Hidden-discuss <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" target="_blank">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Hidden Tech friends,
<div>I just had an editing job and it appeared the author used AI to create the manuscript.</div>
<div>Is there a way to determine if this is true? </div>
<div>Does AI lift content in clumps from published writing? If so, that could put the writer using it to be charged with plagiarism.</div>
<div>I am eager to know about this.</div>
<div>Amy Zuckerman</div>
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