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    <p><font face="Calibri">Regarding dealing with spam: Back when I
        used Eudora for an email client (20 years!), I made extensive
        use of their easy mail filters. Any email I ever got from anyone
        I ever wanted to correspond with was given a filter that put
        their emails into one of three folders: friends, family,
        clients. Mailing lists also had filters to their own folders.
        I'm talking hundreds of filters, which Eudora handled
        beautifully. All that was typically left in my inbox was spam,
        which I could select en masse and delete. Easy peasy. I use
        Thunderbird now, and it's not as easy as Eudora, but I still do
        it that way.</font><br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Mik Muller, president
Montague WebWorks
20 River Street, Greenfield, MA
413-320-5336
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://MontagueWebWorks.com">http://MontagueWebWorks.com</a>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/9/2025 3:02 PM, Rob Laporte via
      Hidden-discuss wrote:<br>
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          <div>Hi Rich and all,<br>
            <br>
            2025 is supposed to be the year when "agentic" LLMs become
            part of the typical 20/mo plans. Currently, people are
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                  <div>Fungai's reply below mentioned.<br>
                    <br>
                    The Jeff Chaisson I cc told me his Northampton
                    employer <a
                      href="https://secondwindconsultants.com/our-team/"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">SecondWindConsultants.com</a>
                    has setup LLM-powered email routing and subsequent
                    actions. Their team seems sharp on business tech.
                    Jeff, Rich runs the regional business list-serve <a
                      href="https://www.hidden-tech.net/"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">HiddenTech</a>,
                    which I imagine your team knows if not signed up
                    with. There might be synergies between your two
                    orgs.</div>
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          <div>Second Wind helps business victims of those shady
            business loan firms. I too get tons of spam from such firms.
            I've found that typical spam rules in email software demand
            a lot of time to get right, and I agree that LLMs should
            expedite handling such--and handling good emails too. <br>
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                    style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif">Rob Laporte</span></span></b><span
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                    can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web.
                    If you don’t get a reply within an expected span of
                    time, please call.</span></span></span><br>
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            <div id="x_16404922771">---- On Thu, 09 Jan 2025 11:08:08
              -0500 <b>Fungai Tichawangana [Artist Dynamix] via
                Hidden-discuss <<a
                  href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
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              wrote ---<br>
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                  <div>Hi Rich,<br>
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                  <div>I've been experimenting with AI Agents and this
                    may help.<br>
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                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>SmythOS (<a target="_blank"
                      href="https://smythos.com/" moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://smythos.com/</a>)
                    - create agents that can accomplish different tasks
                    autonomously<br>
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                  <div>(Another one is Relevance AI, but I haven't tried
                    it out)<br>
                  </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>You could also check out <a target="_blank"
                      href="https://www.make.com/"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.make.com/</a>.
                    Integrates with a ton of different apps and you can
                    set up all sorts of automations.<br>
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                  <div>Open skies,<br>
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                  <div>Fungai <br>
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                class="x_1049074132gmail_quote">Lots of you are working
                on various AI project so hoping someone has some <br>
                experience with something like this.<br>
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                The idea is to be able to control very standard but not
                exact browser or <br>
                email reader (thunderbird for me) sequences.  A simple
                email example <br>
                would be 'delete any email offering a business loan',<br>
                I get a dozen a day -- the subject line has a dozen
                different phrases.<br>
                So the key steps would be recognize a related phrase and
                then trigger an <br>
                action in the email program.<br>
                Another would be to find that latest episode of a list
                of tv series and <br>
                record them.<br>
                That would require scanning a number of web pages and
                triggering each <br>
                show and the recording program for that show.<br>
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                I was suggested Claude as a basis.<br>
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                It has a key feature in that it relies on tools to do
                the detailed work.<br>
                I haven't found tools that seem to do these steps, which
                might mean I've <br>
                just not looked in the right place.<br>
                Any other platform suggestion is fine also.<br>
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                This sounds like a simple case of windows (mac or linux
                is ok) macros, only<br>
                the situations vary based on each case, it takes an
                operator a few <br>
                seconds to see<br>
                the difference in the location of the screen, so a macro
                is too rigid.<br>
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                -- <br>
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