<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body ><div style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><div>Hi Rich and all,<br><br>2025 is supposed to be the year when "agentic" LLMs become part of the typical 20/mo plans. Currently, people are making it work with the likes of Zapier.com and what</div><div class="x_1640492277zmail_extra"><blockquote style="margin: 0px" id="x_1640492277blockquote_zmail"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Fungai's reply below mentioned.<br><br>The Jeff Chaisson I cc told me his Northampton employer <a href="https://secondwindconsultants.com/our-team/" target="_blank">SecondWindConsultants.com</a> has setup LLM-powered email routing and subsequent actions. Their team seems sharp on business tech. Jeff, Rich runs the regional business list-serve <a href="https://www.hidden-tech.net/" target="_blank">HiddenTech</a>, which I imagine your team knows if not signed up with. There might be synergies between your two orgs.</div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>Second Wind helps business victims of those shady business loan firms. I too get tons of spam from such firms. I've found that typical spam rules in email software demand a lot of time to get right, and I agree that LLMs should expedite handling such--and handling good emails too. <br></div><div><br></div><div id="x_1640492277"><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; margin: 0px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif">Best Regards,<br></span></span></div><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; min-height: 15px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif"><br></span></span></div><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; color: rgb(170, 48, 37)"><b><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif">Rob Laporte</span></span></b><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif"><br></span></span></div><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; margin: 0px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif">CEO | R&D Manager<br></span></span></div><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; margin: 0px"><b><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif">DISC - Making Websites Make Money</span></span></b><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif"><br><a href="mailto:Rob@2disc.com" target="_blank">Rob@2disc.com</a>, <span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif">413-584-6500</span></span></span></span><br></div><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; margin: 0px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif"><a target="_blank" href="https://www.2disc.com">www.2disc.com</a></span></span><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="font" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif, sans-serif"></span></span><br></div><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="font" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif, sans-serif"></span></span><br></div><div><b style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="font" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif, sans-serif"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(153, 0, 0)">NOTE:</span></span></span></b><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="font" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif, sans-serif"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(153, 0, 0)"> Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you don’t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call.</span></span></span><br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="x_1640492277zmail_extra_hr" style="border-top: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); min-height: 0px; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; line-height: 0px"><br></div><div class="x_1640492277zmail_extra"><div><br></div><div id="x_16404922771">---- On Thu, 09 Jan 2025 11:08:08 -0500 <b>Fungai Tichawangana [Artist Dynamix] via Hidden-discuss <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" target="_blank">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>></b> wrote ---<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="x_1640492277blockquote_zmail" style="margin: 0px"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Rich,<br></div><div><br></div><div>I've been experimenting with AI Agents and this may help.<br></div><div><br></div><div>SmythOS (<a target="_blank" href="https://smythos.com/">https://smythos.com/</a>) - create agents that can accomplish different tasks autonomously<br></div><div>(Another one is Relevance AI, but I haven't tried it out)<br></div><div><br></div><div>You could also check out <a target="_blank" href="https://www.make.com/">https://www.make.com/</a>. 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A simple email example <br> would be 'delete any email offering a business loan',<br> I get a dozen a day -- the subject line has a dozen different phrases.<br> So the key steps would be recognize a related phrase and then trigger an <br> action in the email program.<br> Another would be to find that latest episode of a list of tv series and <br> record them.<br> That would require scanning a number of web pages and triggering each <br> show and the recording program for that show.<br> <br> I was suggested Claude as a basis.<br> <a target="_blank" href="https://www.anthropic.com/">https://www.anthropic.com/</a><br> <a target="_blank" href="https://docs.anthropic.com/en/home">https://docs.anthropic.com/en/home</a><br> It has a key feature in that it relies on tools to do the detailed work.<br> I haven't found tools that seem to do these steps, which might mean I've <br> just not looked in the right place.<br> Any other platform suggestion is fine also.<br> <br> This sounds like a simple case of windows (mac or linux is ok) macros, only<br> the situations vary based on each case, it takes an operator a few <br> seconds to see<br> the difference in the location of the screen, so a macro is too rigid.<br> <br> -- <br> Rich Roth<br> CEO TnR Global<br> <br> Bio and personal blog: <a target="_blank" href="http://rizbang.com">http://rizbang.com</a><br> Building the really big sites: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.tnrglobal.com">http://www.tnrglobal.com</a><br> Small/Soho business in the PV: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.hidden-tech.net">http://www.hidden-tech.net</a><br> Places to meet for business: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.meetmewhere.com">http://www.meetmewhere.com</a><br> And for Arts and relaxation:<br> <a target="_blank" href="http://TarotMuertos.com">http://TarotMuertos.com</a> - Artistic Tarot Deck<br> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.welovemuseums.com">http://www.welovemuseums.com</a><br> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.artonmytv.com/">http://www.artonmytv.com/</a><br> Shakers: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.shakerpedia.com/">http://www.shakerpedia.com/</a><br> Helping move the world: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.earththrives.com">http://www.earththrives.com</a><br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.hidden-tech.net">http://www.hidden-tech.net</a><br> <a target="_blank" href="mailto:Hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net">Hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a><br> <br> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list.<br> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members<br> page on the Hidden Tech Web site.<br> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.hidden-tech.net/members">http://www.hidden-tech.net/members</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></div><div><br></div></div><br></div><br></body></html>