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<td>RE: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery</td>
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<td>2024-11-11 11:17</td>
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<td>Donald M Stevens <dstevens@tryandfindit.com></td>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Hi Alan,</span></p>
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<li class="v1MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 0in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo3;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">You are just connecting to the Cushman WiFi and can't get to these websites, correct?</span></li>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Thanks,</span></p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><strong><span style="font-size: 14.0pt; color: #0070c0; mso-ligatures: standardcontextual;">TFI technologies</span></strong><span style="color: black; mso-ligatures: standardcontextual;"></span></p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="color: #1f497d; mso-ligatures: standardcontextual;">Email: dstevens@tryandfindit.com</span><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; mso-ligatures: standardcontextual;"></span></p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="color: #212121;">Hi Alan, sorry I see Window OS....</span></p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="color: #212121;">Send me or group the results....</span></p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="color: #212121;">This will save the info to a file </span></p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">This was sent from my smart phone so message may be brief, Don </span></p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;">From:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;"> Hidden-discuss <</span><a href="mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces@lists.hidden-tech.net" rel="noreferrer"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">hidden-discuss-bounces@lists.hidden-tech.net</span></a><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;">> on behalf of Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss <</span><a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" rel="noreferrer"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</span></a><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;">><br /><strong>Sent:</strong> Sunday, November 10, 2024 3:58:09 PM<br /><strong>To:</strong> Noah Paessel <</span><a href="mailto:knowuh@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">knowuh@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;">><br /><strong>Cc:</strong> Hidden Tech <</span><a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" rel="noreferrer"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</span></a><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;">><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery</span></p>
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<p class="v1MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Noah,<br /><br />Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not clear on how it would help me. <br />My workplace already has VPN access; I'm sure they're not going to want <br />to host a second one just so that I can access personal websites from <br />Cushman. Or does the VPN have Tor-like capability to tunnel to those <br />sites without the need to configure a host? Or am I misunderstanding <br />entirely?<br /><br />Also, while a solution that I can set up on my own laptop would be <br />appreciated, I am hoping to be altruistic and find a way to solve this <br />problem for everyone, so each Cushman patron doesn't need to install <br />their own copy of third-party software.<br /><br />--Alan<br /><br /><br />-------- Original Message --------<br />Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Cushman wifi mystery<br />Date: 2024-11-09 10:45<br /> From: Noah Paessel <</span><a href="mailto:knowuh@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">knowuh@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">><br />To: Alan Frank <</span><a href="mailto:alan@8wheels.org" rel="noreferrer"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">alan@8wheels.org</span></a><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">><br /><br />Hi Alan,<br /><br />I subscribe to a commercial VPN service. I generally have it turned on <br />unless I am at home. There are many to choose from, and many blog posts <br />compare these commercial offerings. Nord VPN is constantly given high<br />Marks, also Proton. These are usually affordable.<br /><br />Lately I have also been using TailScale for more nerdy reasons. Note <br />that this solution won't do what you want at Cushman "out of the box" — <br />but you could configure it to do so pretty easily. It's an amazing <br />service especially if you want to be able to access your private <br />infrastructure from anywhere. The free tier is very generous.<br /><br />And boy do I love Cushman ! </span><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Segoe UI Emoji',sans-serif;">❤️</span><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;"><br /><br />Good luck!<br /><br />Noah<br /><br />> On Nov 9, 2024, at 10:16</span><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;"> </span><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">AM, Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss <br />> <</span><a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" rel="noreferrer"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</span></a><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">> wrote:<br />> <br />> </span><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma',sans-serif;"></span><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Hidden Techers,<br />> <br />> I frequently eat lunch at Cushman Market in Amherst. For many years, I <br />> had no problems with their wifi. However, in July, I started getting <br />> connection errors for most web sites. For example:<br />> <br />> This site can't be reached<br />> </span><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">https://www.washingtonpost.com/</span></a><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;"> is unreachable.<br />> Try running Windows Network Diagnostics.<br />> ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE<br />> <br />> This site can't be reached<br />> Check if there is a typo in webmail.pair.com.<br />> If spelling is correct, try running Windows Network Diagnostics.<br />> DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN<br />> <br />> I am able to access Facebook, Google, and Youtube, among others. I <br />> could watch a video on Youtube, so it's not a bandwidth issue.<br />> <br />> I can access </span><a href="https://www.bridgebase.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">https://www.bridgebase.com/</span></a><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">, but when I follow the links <br />> to log in or to access the VuGraph archive on the same site, it fails. <br />> Perhaps the home page is cached?<br />> <br />> Over time, I experienced the same thing on three different Windows <br />> laptops and on my phone, when connected to the Cushman wifi. None of <br />> the devices had any trouble connecting to any of the web sites from <br />> home or from other public wifi networks. I also spoke with another <br />> Cushman customer. He said that he didn't have any trouble, though when <br />> he tried then to access washingtonpost.com, he got the same message. <br />> At my request, he also tried fidelity.com--another one that is <br />> unreachable for me--and got a basic HTML page, not the normal rich home <br />> page.<br />> <br />> I reached out to the owner of Cushman. She said that she didn't have <br />> any problems with those sites, that she wasn't intentionally blocking <br />> any of them, and that she could access them from her device; I'm not <br />> sure which sites specifically she was able to reach and I don't have <br />> direct knowledge that she was using the same network.<br />> <br />> One idea I had was to tunnel through my work VPN to a remote desktop, <br />> though at best that will work only until I retire in a few years. <br />> There are a couple of ways to do that. One is through a URL, but of <br />> course I can't access that. Another is to use Windows App. When I <br />> tried installing it while at Cushman, Microsoft Store said that I <br />> wasn't connected to the internet, though of course I was--I can <br />> navigate the store itself just fine. I installed it later from home <br />> and will try it out the next time I'm at the cafe, which at this point <br />> may not be for a while.<br />> <br />> I'd appreciate any suggestions for what the owner or I can do to <br />> investigate or resolve this issue.<br />> <br />> --Alan<br />> _______________________________________________<br />> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: </span><a href="http://www.hidden-tech.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">http://www.hidden-tech.net</span></a><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;"><br />> </span><a href="mailto:Hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" rel="noreferrer"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</span></a><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;"><br />> <br />> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion <br />> list.<br />> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members<br />> page on the Hidden Tech Web site.<br />> </span><a href="http://www.hidden-tech.net/members" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">http://www.hidden-tech.net/members</span></a><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;"><br />_______________________________________________<br />Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: </span><a href="http://www.hidden-tech.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">http://www.hidden-tech.net</span></a><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;"><br /></span><a href="mailto:Hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" rel="noreferrer"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</span></a><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;"><br /><br />You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list.<br />If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members<br />page on the Hidden Tech Web site.<br /></span><a href="http://www.hidden-tech.net/members" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">http://www.hidden-tech.net/members</span></a><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;"></span></p>
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