<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body ><div style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div>On glorious vacation day, so quickly: thanks for feedback and keep it coming. I'll be back Tuesday.<br><br>One remark now though: good books could be written on many each of several sub-topics about the viability of LLM models, and ultimately a venture like I imagine would consist of those whose R&D moves them towards the idea. Most efficient vote by the rest is walking away. That said, I seek salient critiques. For example, that critique regarding financial constraints curtailing availability and function is indeed a paramount concern some say is already starting. <br><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif"><br>Best Regards,<br></span></span></div><div id="Zm-_Id_-Sgn" data-sigid="1535369000000073001" data-zbluepencil-ignore="true"><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; min-height: 15px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif"><br></span></span></div><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; margin: 0px; color: rgb(170, 48, 37)"><b><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif">Rob Laporte</span></span></b><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif"><br></span></span></div><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; margin: 0px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif">CEO | R&D Manager</span><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif"><br></span></span></div><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; margin: 0px"><b><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif">DISC - Making Websites Make Money</span></span></b><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif"><br><a target="_blank" href="mailto:Rob@2disc.com">Rob@2disc.com</a>, <span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif">413-584-6500</span></span></span></span><br></div><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; margin: 0px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.2disc.com" target="_blank">www.2disc.com</a></span></span><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="font" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif, sans-serif"></span></span><br></div><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="font" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif, sans-serif"></span></span><br></div><div><b style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="font" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif, sans-serif"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(153, 0, 0)">NOTE:</span></span></span></b><span class="size" style="font-size:16px"><span class="font" style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif, sans-serif"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(153, 0, 0)"> Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you don’t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call.</span></span></span><br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="zmail_extra_hr" style="border-top: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; line-height: 0px;"><br></div><div class="zmail_extra" data-zbluepencil-ignore="true"><div><br></div><div id="Zm-_Id_-Sgn1">---- On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 14:25:45 -0400 <b>Rich@tnr via Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net></b> wrote ---<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="blockquote_zmail" style="margin: 0px;"><div><p>SO I can't be more specific for usual NDA reasons however I am
aware of a number of LLM/Search projects<br> that I have more detailed inside information on, which as the
business model becomes clearer I might be able to add more <br> details - those are issues that are being explore as we speak.<br></p><p>R.<br></p><div class="x_228655736moz-cite-prefix">On 7/18/2024 1:32 PM, Robert Archer via
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being kept cheap by injections of private equity. There is a
danger that should be brought up that access to these systems
could be curtailed at some point by price point or industry
shake-up, or become problematic as their use is subsidized by
selling the data/schema that are used in them, if they are not
kept within an organization . . .<br id="x_228655736lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"> <div><br><blockquote><div>On Jul 18, 2024, at 12:45 PM, Rob Laporte via
Hidden-discuss <a class="x_228655736moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" target="_blank"><hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net></a> wrote:<br></div><br class="x_228655736Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div><div style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt"><p style="line-height: 1.8; margin-right: 9pt; margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 9pt" dir="ltr"><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Hi All,</span></span></span><br></p><p style="line-height: 1.8; margin-right: 9pt; margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 9pt" dir="ltr"><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">For several months my firm has been studying </span></span></span><a style="text-decoration: none" href="https://www.2disc.com/blog/can-ai-replace-upper-management-lines-in-the-sand/" target="_blank"><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(17, 85, 204)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"><u style="font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">LLMs</u></span></span></span></span></a><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">, like ChatGPT, and integrating it throughout our operations. In the process, it occurred to me how our region could counteract the inevitable decrease in paid labor which LLM’s will cause.</span></span></span><br></p><p style="line-height: 1.8; margin-right: 9pt; margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 9pt" dir="ltr"><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I imagine that some kind of LLM association could pool talents to create profession-specific “</span></span></span><a style="text-decoration: none" href="https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpts/" target="_blank"><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(17, 85, 204)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"><u style="font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">GPTs</u></span></span></span></span></a><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">” (or the like with other LLMs). Each profession, like law, accounting, even kinds of retail service and stores, could have a committee to make their GPT based on a master schema established by the overall association. Using such tools, and saying so in marketing communications, could increase the total amount of business per profession. </span></span></span><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span></span></span><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span></span></span><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I’m conferring with State employment agencies about this, and Chambers of Commerce are also candidates for advancing such associations.</span></span></span><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span></span></span><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span></span></span><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">There’s much more I can detail about this, but for now I’m just floating the idea for feedback.</span></span></span><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span></span></span><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span></span></span><span class="highlight" style="background-color:transparent"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size: 11pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I’m leaving on vacation through Monday, after which I’ll eagerly join any conversation that ensues here.</span></span></span></span></span></span><br></p><div class="x_228655736zmail_signature_below"><div id=""><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; margin: 0px"><span class="size" style="font-size:13px"><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif">Best
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