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    <p><font face="Calibri">Very satisfying. If you really want to get
        into the guts, unscrew the casing and use sandpaper on the
        platters.</font></p>
    <p><font face="Calibri">BTW, the "leave it outside in the weather"
        is to give the ants an opportunity to move in. :-)<br>
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    <p><font face="Calibri">Mik<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Mik Muller, president
Montague WebWorks
20 River Street, Greenfield, MA
413-320-5336
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://MontagueWebWorks.com">http://MontagueWebWorks.com</a>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/25/2024 11:26 AM, Deborah Chandler
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          you, Mik and others, for sharing your wisdom. I will take the
          data from your expertise and make some sound decisions.
          Throwing hard drives onto the ground and drilling lots of
          holes, that actually sounds fun. :-) </div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at
          11:21 AM Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss <<a
            href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net"
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            <p><font face="Calibri">To ensure my old HDs are unreadable,
                I prefer to use a metal drill bit and make lots of holes
                in the drive, then soak it in dishwater for an hour,
                then leave it outside in the weather for a while before
                dropping it off at the transfer station as scrap metal.</font></p>
            <p><font face="Calibri">I saw a horrific news story once
                about large corporations selling their old digital
                copiers and printers to bulk buyers, who eventually
                shipped them off to Russia. Great! How much info did
                they just hand over? I will never copy my tax returns at
                Staples.</font></p>
            <p><font face="Calibri">Mik<br>
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            <pre cols="72">Mik Muller, president
Montague WebWorks
20 River Street, Greenfield, MA
413-320-5336
<a href="http://MontagueWebWorks.com" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">http://MontagueWebWorks.com</a>
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            <div>On 1/24/2024 10:03 PM, all <a
                href="http://pinehurstpictures.com" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">pinehurstpictures.com</a> via
              Hidden-discuss wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">Deb,</div>
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                  <div dir="ltr">Your best bet is to wipe (format) the
                    entire drive and reload the OS. Not 100% secure but
                    the average person won’t get in. The G4 is so old it
                    won’t be useful to anyone. Take the hard drive and
                    smash it against the ground a few times, then
                    recycle. <span></span></div>
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                Get <a href="https://aka.ms/o0ukef" target="_blank"
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                  on behalf of Deborah Chandler via Hidden-discuss <a
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                  <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 24, 2024 7:37:09 PM<br>
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                  <b>Subject:</b> [Hidden-tech] * * * Cleaning off a
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                    Hi folks, </div>
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                    Could someone guide me on the best way to clear
                    personal data off a computer, but leave software on
                    there? I have a MacPro desktop computer and a G4
                    desktop that I want to give away, and need to clear
                    my files off beforehand, this week ideally. </div>
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                    Deb</div>
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