<div dir="ltr">I'm speaking from my own experience and it's not exactly positive, so I'm prefacing with that in case people are in the mood to "flame", since the internet has become just so toxic as of late.<div><br></div><div>I've been trying to get (more) work for so many years. Keep in mind, should you be any sort of creative (I'm a graphic designer, primarily, but more of a "jack of all trades" kind of digital creator, so to speak), freelancing could possibly hurt your chances of finding work in a company, should freelancing be your "supplemental", or in my case a way of gaining experience whilst sharpening/updating your skills. Too many companies seek someone who has worked in a design house, as if to say freelancers don't have any experience with customers/clientele. Personally, I've given up trying to find any semblance of freelance work. I've tried Fiverr, but then you're competing with literally designers of the world who would be willing to do the same exact work for much less (perhaps cost of living is much cheaper on their side of the planet??). I've tried finding mentors, I've asked people in the business (literally dog eat dog world in the creative side of business, when you'd think otherwise) who might as well just tell me to "google it". I honestly believed when I was younger the creative world was much more accepting and helpful and learned the exact opposite. Content creators of other sides of creativity (bakers, pastry chefs, crafters, etc) are much more helpful than digital designers. I might as well get the finger. This has been an ongoing battle for me for YEARS on top of the attempt at getting my foot in the door after I graduated back in 2008 (which I finally got one with Johnny Rockets, but that lasted 8 months thanks to the pandemic, which hurt many businesses).<div><br></div><div>Sorry to sound so negative, but just want to be honest of what others could potentially experience. I've been attempting to steer youngins in a STEM path and away from digital creative fields, only due to the simple fact that it is so saturated and many of these jobs are also outsourced; and as aforementioned, you're competing with the planet, as opposed to others in your geographical area. I was told about this email group in hopes of gaining employment, and it didn't help me much, either, though I've volunteered bidding for a logo in the past, and have offered insight in other areas, so it's not a total "waste of time". Plus, I've contributed more in the past than I do today.</div><div><br></div><div>I personally wish I was more helpful and wished I knew of areas in which freelancers could obtain more work, but as I stated, it depends on where you seek to find work. </div></div><div><br></div><div>Again, speaking of my experience, not necessarily as a warning, but more of a "heads up: this could possibly happen". </div><div><br></div><div>Denise</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 10:07 AM Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">In addition to general networking and skill-posting sites for freelancers, don't neglect communities of interest within the genre they are trying to serve. When people participate actively and use an e-mail sig that highlights their strengths without being pushy, many conversations open up.<div><br></div><div>It also helps to really go after a niche rather than just everyone with a need. For exaple, in my copywriting and marketing consulting, I focus on two areas: 1) businesses with a commitment to social change and environmental healing, and 2) people i the book world.<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"></div><div><br></div><div>Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"</div><div>________________________________________________</div><div>Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, </div><div>poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change</div><div>* First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified</div><div>* Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame</div><div>* Certified speaker: International Platform Association</div><div><a href="https://goingbeyondsustainability.com" target="_blank">https://goingbeyondsustainability.com</a> </div><div>mailto:<a href="mailto:shel@greenandprofitable.com" target="_blank">shel@greenandprofitable.com</a> 413-586-2388</div><div>Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. </div><div>Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World </div><div>(co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson)</div><div><br></div><div>Watch my TEDx Talk,</div><div>"Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World"</div><div><a href="http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809" target="_blank">http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809</a> </div><div>(move your mouse to "event videos")</div><div>_________________________________________________</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 11:41 AM Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" target="_blank">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi HT community,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I know many creative freelancers who want to get their new businesses more off the ground. So I am wondering what places you would look for finding gigs, such as for video editing gigs. Any websites coming to mind that seem legit? Do you have a favorite? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">They are doing networking and such, and I'm just wondering about additional places to look for gigs online. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">In the meantime, if you have a need for an experienced video editor (for small biz videos), I can get you in touch with someone good. I also know some great illustrators and copywriters. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thank you!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Val</div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font style="font-size:large;color:rgb(204,0,0);font-weight:bold"><font lang="0" face="Arial"><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><font lang="0" face="Arial"><font style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102)">______________________________</span></font></font></font><font style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></font></font><i><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif" color="#674ea7"><b>Val Nelson</b></font></i><br><br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-family:"arial narrow",sans-serif">THE BLACK SWAN COACH</span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><font lang="0"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51)"><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102)"><font face="times new roman, serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"></span>career ~ business ~ <i>impact </i></font><br></span></span></font></font></div><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000"><font lang="0" face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102)"><a href="https://valnelson.com/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">ValNelson.com</a> <br></span></font></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">></span><span style="color:rgb(153,153,153)"> </span></font><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"></span><a href="https://valnelson.com/courses/bridge-to-self-employment/" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif" target="_blank">New: Transitioning to Self-employment (course)</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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