<html><head></head><body><div class="ydpc9603d0cyahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Thanks for the kind words Shel, and the ClearClick suggestion from Mik.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I've done a lot of comparison research over the years, and given the mixed reviews I haven't bothered with the ClearClick and similar devices.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The problem I run into is the wildly varying condition of the the signals I'm working with--some strong and stable, but many are not, and need all the help they can get, and, I don't what I'm dealing with until after the fact of successful capture or not. So my case is different in that regard. I will say though, that problems in playback/signal are becoming more the rule than the exception when it comes to consumer videotape playback, and even so with professional master tapes (specifically Ampex, 3M and a few others which have sticky shed syndrome, requiring heat treatment to stabilize the binder).</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">But the thing I forgot to ask Mike from his original post is why he didn't stick with the files ripped from the DVDs. Sure you don't want to download a 3-hour file, but you can cut and organize them like you did your eventual files from Everpresent. I suppose it was a quality issue of the DVD? The better units had (have?) hard drives in them so you can edit and compile content before burning to DVD. Panasonic might still make a unit like that. That workflow is actually probably the best DIY solution I can think of since you have a DVD hard copy (and even HDD in the unit for as long as that lasts), plus your derivative files from the DVD, which could be the native MPEG-2 and/or re-encode to MPEG-4, where you could apply some additional processing if desired. Handbrake can do a lot of that heavy lifting.<br></div><div><br></div><div class="ydpc9603d0csignature"><font style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;" size="3">Steve Unkles, Production Manager</font><br><font size="4">    Audio-Visual Archives</font><br><font style="font-style:italic;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;" size="2"> Media Production and Preservation</font><br><font size="4">     <a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">www.MakeHistory.tv</a><br><br></font></div></div>
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    <p><font face="Calibri">Funny. Back in the 80's I worked at a place
        that converted S-8mm film (and other film formats) to VHS tape.
        I saw the care they took most of the time and was on the
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    <p><font face="Calibri">If you have a lot of tape, it might make
        sense to do it yourself, unless you feel the condition of the
        tape is too delicate to handle yourself (like the oxide is
        falling off the acetate). I had about 50 tapes to transfer, so I
        bought a ClearClick Video2Digital Converter 2.0 and borrowed an
        S-VHS semi-pro deck from my local public access TV station (they
        don't use them anymore -- was just in storage) and recorded the
        tapes onto thumb drives, which I then moved to my internal HD
        for editing and clipping. The quality of the video generated by
        the ClearClick is pretty good, all things considered, and it was
        easy to see what was going on because the unit has a small
        screen you can look at while it's working. I used the s-video
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        photos. To their credit, they took it seriously when I reported
        it to them and escalated it to the owner, but it took them six
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                <p>I have a friend who has some
                  particular needs in terms of transferring VHS to a
                  digital format.  He’s transferred other tapes via
                  commercial companies, but there are some sensitive
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                <ul style="margin-top:0in;" type="disc"><li style="margin-left:0in;">They don’t track properly
                    in a VCR, so need someone with the tech to adjust
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                  </li><li style="margin-left:0in;">They are quite dark, so
                    need adjusting for that also, if possible.<br clear="none">
                  </li><li style="margin-left:0in;">One tape may contain
                    politically incorrect material (not blue, per se,
                    but something that more modern sensibilities
                    wouldn’t approve of.  But it’s a family tape, so
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                <p>He’d like a local and/or small
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