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    <font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Hi Bram,<br>
      <br>
      Yes, we actually use Digital Ocean for prototyping more complex
      systems we're developing before moving them to a dedicated server.
      The main problem I have with Digital Ocean, and based on reviews
      it's the same for all those instant VPS systems, is that we have
      no access to their infrastructure and so are completely dependent
      on their level of support. We've had instances where we've gone
      several hours without a response, which is untenable. With a
      server, we have very quick access to the infrastructure. Also, the
      storage space is expensive compared to SSD's on a server. <br>
      <br>
      Sam<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/24/2021 1:57 PM, Bram Moreinis via
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      <p>Recommendation: <br>
      </p>
      <p>Use Linode instead of AWS.  It isn't managed, but they provide
        great service: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
          href="https://www.linode.com/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.linode.com/</a></p>
      <p>It's similar to Digital Ocean in that you can duplicate and
        engineer different server configurations. <br>
      </p>
      <p>If all you want is a command line without the GUI, Linode gives
        you that too. <br>
      </p>
      <p>You can buy Linode time by the day. <br>
      </p>
      <p>-Bram<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/24/2021 12:56 PM, Sam McClellan
        via Hidden-discuss wrote:<br>
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        <blockquote type="cite"><font face="Calibri">I try not to give
            Jeff Bezos even one more dime, so will likely never wind up
            on AWS.</font></blockquote>
        That is the issue I face as a host. I know a cloud format is
        better than the single server format for hosting for several
        reasons, principally redundancy, management and distributed
        content. But in my experience, we're in a transition time when
        all the clouds that are affordable enough and could be used for
        shared hosting are owned by the same big companies that are
        trying to get our information and that I don't want to support.
        <br>
        <br>
        I do believe private clouds will become more affordable and
        usable over time. In the meantime we do our best -- our servers
        are hosted in relatively green colo's that have direct access to
        the internet backbone, we back up every day and, for any sites
        that need it for bandwidth and global distribution, use a CDN -
        mainly Cloudflare, or Sucuri if they need a firewall too. Love
        Sucuri.<br>
        <br>
        Sam<br>
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