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    <p>If any of these were my older serious business sites I'd have
      move on that.<br>
      Although a few are major research projects like Shakerpedia<br>
      As is it, I don't think I'm up for the effort or cost of legal
      battle<br>
      <br>
      That said, I do think they totally violated best practices -- all
      our AWS, google or other services give 3-6 months warning on such
      structural changes.<br>
      And I do plan on telling them that.<br>
      <br>
      Clearly time to move past SG.<br>
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      Thanks - Stay well all - Rich<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/18/2021 9:31 PM, Shel Horowitz
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        this particular area. I think you have a claim--but that's
        personal opinion--I am not qualified to give legal advice. Many
        lawyers will give you a free initial consult, though--and if
        they smell a large settlement, working on spec for a (hefty)
        percentage of the settlement is pretty common.
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        <div>Good luck.</div>
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        <div>I had one site hosted with Siteground for one year. I
          wasn't unhappy until they tripled the price for the second
          year and I left. I have all my sites with Hostgator now.</div>
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                        <div>Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"</div>
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                        <div>* First business ever to be Green America
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                        <div>mailto:<a
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                          413-586-2388</div>
                        <div>Award-winning, best-selling author of 10
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                        <div>Watch my TEDx Talk,</div>
                        <div>"Impossible is a Dare: Business for a
                          Better World"</div>
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                            href="http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809</a> </div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 4:10
          PM Rich@tnr via Hidden-discuss <<a
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          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Just
          checking anyone else has been totally screwed up by siteground
          changes<br>
          (and yes, I'm being very polite in my use of words)<br>
          <br>
          They changed their goGreek hosting so each web site is it's
          own unix user id<br>
          and blocking any shared logic between sites.<br>
          Which would make no difference for simple sites,however<br>
          I have some 50 sites on hosting with them and a number of busy
          ones use <br>
          common logic.<br>
          now broken at some unknown level -- it will be hours of
          unwinding.<br>
          <br>
          Of course they did this without prior warning.<br>
          Usually a change like this is down after months of warning.<br>
          I am on the verge of calling a lawyer -- working to determine
          the damage <br>
          first.<br>
          <br>
          Very likely looking for alternative hosting.<br>
          Before retiring this would have all been done on AWS
          instances,<br>
          however since most of volunteer work I couldn't justify the
          expense.<br>
          <br>
          Suggestions of hosting or how to handle common logic across
          domains.<br>
          <br>
          Stay well - Rich<br>
          <br>
          -- <br>
          Rich Roth<br>
          CEO TnR Global<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Rich Roth
CEO TnR Global

Bio and personal blog: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://rizbang.com">http://rizbang.com</a>
Building the really big sites:      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.tnrglobal.com">http://www.tnrglobal.com</a>
Small/Soho business in the PV:        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.hidden-tech.net">http://www.hidden-tech.net</a>
Places to meet for business:        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.meetmewhere.com">http://www.meetmewhere.com</a>
And for Arts and relaxation:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://TarotMuertos.com">http://TarotMuertos.com</a> - Artistic Tarot Deck
   <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.welovemuseums.com">http://www.welovemuseums.com</a>
   <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.artonmytv.com/">http://www.artonmytv.com/</a>
Helping move the world:             <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.earththrives.com">http://www.earththrives.com</a></pre>
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