<html><head></head><body>I heartily second Jeff’s recommendation of Dreamhost+Hover. <div><br></div><div>d<br> <p class="gmail_quote" style="color:#000">On December 10, 2020 at 9:20:36 PM, Jeff Hobbs via Hidden-discuss (<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>) wrote:</p> <blockquote type="cite" class="gmail_quote"><span><div><div></div><div>
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<div dir="auto">I love Dreamhost. I’ve been hosting a number of
projects there for years, and I’ve never had any major problems. It
is still a “PHP and MySQL” shop in many ways, but they also offer
many modern amenities as well.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I use hover as a domain registrar, however. Mainly
because hover is very good at it.</div>
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<div dir="auto">~Jeff</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 8:52 PM
Mark D. Hamill via Hidden-discuss <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">It seems every few years we swap hosting
recommendations. Based on a conversation a few years ago on this
list, I chose Siteground and have been reasonably happy with it, at
least until recently.
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<div>Of course a good host depends on your needs. Shared hosting
has worked pretty well for me for my modest needs but I have used
virtual private servers in the past. In general, hosts seem to have
upped their game with shared hosting and I rarely encounter
performance issues that I saw in the past.</div>
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<div>One of the big trends, which is affecting hosts like GoDaddy
and Siteground, is they are becoming virtual web hosts. GoDaddy is
moving to Amazon's cloud and Siteground to Google's. So
presumably these hosts are saving a lot of money because they
aren't maintaining their own server rooms. It's generally
complicated to set up hosting in the cloud, so they seem to add
value by putting up pretty interfaces. Siteground had impressed me
with its all solid state infrastructure, but presumably all the
major cloud vendors are now solid state and since Siteground is
virtual now (or moving that way), it's not that big of a
deal.</div>
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<div>So looking at informed recommendations for shared and VPS web
hosts in particular. I'm a little prejudiced against virtual hosts,
but I'm guessing it's a trend that will only continue and at some
point virtually all web hosts will be virtual. I prefer hosts that
build in value. Siteground, for example, includes free Let's
Encrypt certificates and their maintenance built in. This seems to
be becoming more standardized but curiously last I checked GoDaddy
doesn't do this.</div>
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<div>I attended a podcamp in Boston last year. A representative
from Dreamhost talked about how they fought off legal efforts by
the Trump administration to make them monitor their servers
proactively. I don't think they are a virtual hosting company.
Anyone have experiences with Dreamhost?</div>
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<div>I do have one recommendation when it comes to registrars. I
keep my registrar separate from my hosting so I can quickly divorce
hosts when needed. I see registrars as commodities. I've been happy
with <a href="http://namesilo.com" target="_blank">namesilo.com</a>. They seem to be the cheapest out there
and they throw in extras, like privacy protection, for free. Most
of my clients use GoDaddy and I think their registrar services are
obscenely priced. But I'm sure registrars are going through changes
too. It might be good to trade notes on registrars too.</div>
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<div>Thanks and I'm sure our discussion will be useful to
many.</div>
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<div>Mark</div>
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