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    <p><font face="Calibri">For me, most of our business is in Western
        Mass or Southern Vermont, and any new customer that wants to
        reach me will leave a message. I'm diligent about adding any
        legit numbers into my phone so I'll get their calls in the
        future, but all others go to voice mail. Most messages I get are
        the tail end of a robo call, "...ant to be removed from our call
        list, please press 9." I just hit delete.<br>
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    <p><font face="Calibri">Also, Verizon now has a thing where, if you
        do accept calls from numbers not in your phone book, they will
        set the caller ID to "POTENTIAL SCAM" above the actual number,
        where the person's name would go, if that number appears to be a
        scammer to them. Easy to ignore, although the phone still rings.</font></p>
    <p><font face="Calibri">Mik</font><br>
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Mik Muller, president
Montague WebWorks
239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA
413-320-5336
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        sometimes coming over the phone don't have that option. While
        90% of those types of calls are junk, the other 10% are legit. I
        have found that if there are a lot of random numbers on the
        screen, it's usually junk. Also, I don't think I've ever gotten
        a call from 339 area code that was legit. But just today, I was
        phone-banking North Carolina for the democrats and one of the
        numbers I was given was a 339. Also many of the junk calls have
        names attached and look legit. I have actually experienced
        multiple occurrences of not only someone I knew in the next town
        and MY OWN NAME AND NUMBER showing on the ID of spam calls.
        Obviously, if someone is pretending to be me, I don't answer.
        And some numbers become familiar and I know I can ignore those.
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 2:52
          PM ed--- via Hidden-discuss <<a
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          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I'm
          not sure how "creative" this is, but assuming you have
          caller-ID on your<br>
          landline, you'll note that most robocalls have a phony phone
          number; it's<br>
          generally a city or town, and the return phone number appears
          to be valid<br>
          (i.e., the correct area code and telephone exchange). The
          giveaway is that<br>
          the caller is identified as a city or town. Don't pick up your
          phone for<br>
          these calls. The robodialer recognizes when it's reached a
          phone answering<br>
          system, and doesn't leave a message. You'll still get the
          rings, but not the<br>
          annoyance or distraction of actually interacting with an
          automaton or human<br>
          who has been connected by same.<br>
          <br>
          The VOIP suggestion below might work well, too, assuming you
          have really<br>
          good Internet service (bandwidth).<br>
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          <br>
          Ed Bride<br>
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          On<br>
          Behalf Of James Triplett via Hidden-discuss<br>
          Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 2:15 PM<br>
          To: Val Nelson <<a href="mailto:val@valnelson.com"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">val@valnelson.com</a>><br>
          Cc: <a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a><br>
          Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls?<br>
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          On (21/09/20 18:38), Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss wrote:<br>
          > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 18:38:45 -0400<br>
          > From: Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss <br>
          > <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>><br>
          > To: Hidden-Tech Listserv <<a
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            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>><br>
          > Subject: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls?<br>
          > Reply-To: Val Nelson <<a
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          > <br>
          > Hi HT community,<br>
          > I'm increasingly bombarded with junk phone calls.
          Multiple a day.<br>
          > Especially in the last month.<br>
          > <br>
          > Any creative ideas to reduce that? They are all mostly on
          the same <br>
          > topic of selling business visibility online. Argh.<br>
          > <br>
          <br>
          We've basically eliminated robocalls with the following:<br>
          <br>
          1. Move (called porting) our "landline" number to a VOIP
          service, such as<br>
          <a href="http://voip.ms" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">voip.ms</a> .<br>
          2. The VOIP service has an automated attendant function, which
          answers the<br>
          phone<br>
             and says, "Marketing calls not accepted.  If you're human,
          press 3"<br>
          3, If, and only if, the caller presses '3', the automated
          attendant "dials<br>
          out"<br>
             to a second secret number, which then rings our phone.<br>
          <br>
          To my surprise it works perfectly, even human callers at call
          centers don't<br>
          seem to be able to get past it.<br>
          <br>
          The VOIP service (which we got originally to save money) costs
          around $6 per<br>
          month per line.<br>
          <br>
          cheers,<br>
          James<br>
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