<div dir="auto">Make sure you're on the do not call list. The fines are rather serious for any domestic commerical operation. Foreign spammers won't care but it's cut my calls by 95-99%. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">It doesn't take effect immediately so do it asap!<br><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.donotcall.gov/">https://www.donotcall.gov/</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Jack Laxson</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 22, 2020, 20:12 Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Unfortunately, those of us who rely on new business sometimes coming over the phone don't have that option. While 90% of those types of calls are junk, the other 10% are legit. I have found that if there are a lot of random numbers on the screen, it's usually junk. Also, I don't think I've ever gotten a call from 339 area code that was legit. But just today, I was phone-banking North Carolina for the democrats and one of the numbers I was given was a 339. Also many of the junk calls have names attached and look legit. I have actually experienced multiple occurrences of not only someone I knew in the next town and MY OWN NAME AND NUMBER showing on the ID of spam calls. Obviously, if someone is pretending to be me, I don't answer. And some numbers become familiar and I know I can ignore those.<div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"></div><div>Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"</div><div>________________________________________________</div><div>Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, </div><div>poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change</div><div>* First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified</div><div>* Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame</div><div>* Certified speaker: International Platform Association</div><div><a href="http://goingbeyondsustainability.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://goingbeyondsustainability.com</a> </div><div>mailto:<a href="mailto:shel@greenandprofitable.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">shel@greenandprofitable.com</a> 413-586-2388</div><div>Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. </div><div>Latest:Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World </div><div>(co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson)</div><div><br></div><div>Watch my TEDx Talk,</div><div>"Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World"</div><div><a href="http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809</a> </div><div>(move your mouse to "event videos")</div><div>_________________________________________________</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 2:52 PM ed--- via Hidden-discuss <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I'm not sure how "creative" this is, but assuming you have caller-ID on your<br>
landline, you'll note that most robocalls have a phony phone number; it's<br>
generally a city or town, and the return phone number appears to be valid<br>
(i.e., the correct area code and telephone exchange). The giveaway is that<br>
the caller is identified as a city or town. Don't pick up your phone for<br>
these calls. The robodialer recognizes when it's reached a phone answering<br>
system, and doesn't leave a message. You'll still get the rings, but not the<br>
annoyance or distraction of actually interacting with an automaton or human<br>
who has been connected by same.<br>
<br>
The VOIP suggestion below might work well, too, assuming you have really<br>
good Internet service (bandwidth).<br>
<br>
<br>
Ed Bride<br>
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Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls?<br>
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On (21/09/20 18:38), Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss wrote:<br>
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 18:38:45 -0400<br>
> From: Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss <br>
> <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>><br>
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> Subject: [Hidden-tech] Ways to reduce junk phone calls?<br>
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> <br>
> Hi HT community,<br>
> I'm increasingly bombarded with junk phone calls. Multiple a day.<br>
> Especially in the last month.<br>
> <br>
> Any creative ideas to reduce that? They are all mostly on the same <br>
> topic of selling business visibility online. Argh.<br>
> <br>
<br>
We've basically eliminated robocalls with the following:<br>
<br>
1. Move (called porting) our "landline" number to a VOIP service, such as<br>
<a href="http://voip.ms" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">voip.ms</a> .<br>
2. The VOIP service has an automated attendant function, which answers the<br>
phone<br>
and says, "Marketing calls not accepted. If you're human, press 3"<br>
3, If, and only if, the caller presses '3', the automated attendant "dials<br>
out"<br>
to a second secret number, which then rings our phone.<br>
<br>
To my surprise it works perfectly, even human callers at call centers don't<br>
seem to be able to get past it.<br>
<br>
The VOIP service (which we got originally to save money) costs around $6 per<br>
month per line.<br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
James<br>
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