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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss-bounces@lists.hidden-tech.net> on behalf of Tom Murray via Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 29, 2020 11:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shel Horowitz <shel@principledprofit.com>; Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Hidden-tech] Alternatives to Zoom for a large group webinar</font>
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<div class="" style="word-wrap:break-word; line-break:after-white-space">Hi Shel,
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<div class="">I'm signed up for an online conference in a couple weeks where the organizers are using Nextcloud and wrote the following;</div>
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<span class="x_gmail-author-a-z77zz73zsz86zz87zz68zz75zz66zz65z8aiz74ze2a"><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Why we aren</span></b></span><span class="x_gmail-author-a-pacz81zu5z71zz66zaty3z83zkvj"><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">'</span></b></span><span class="x_gmail-author-a-z77zz73zsz86zz87zz68zz75zz66zz65z8aiz74ze2a"><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">t
using Zoom: </span></b></span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></span></div>
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<span class="x_gmail-author-a-z77zz73zsz86zz87zz68zz75zz66zz65z8aiz74ze2a"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">You may be wondering why we are essentially asking you to learn a new system and not use Zoom, which most of us are
familiar with especially over the past few months. There are two main issues with Zoom - first, it </span></span><span class="x_gmail-author-a-e0z75z8eji05z79zz65zz88z9z72zz67zz87z"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">recently </span></span><span class="x_gmail-author-a-z77zz73zsz86zz87zz68zz75zz66zz65z8aiz74ze2a"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">had
some critical security breaches; second and more importantly, </span></span><span class="x_gmail-author-a-pacz81zu5z71zz66zaty3z83zkvj"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Zoom</span></span><span class="x_gmail-author-a-z77zz73zsz86zz87zz68zz75zz66zz65z8aiz74ze2a"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> made
false claims about it's privacy</span></span><span class="x_gmail-author-a-pacz81zu5z71zz66zaty3z83zkvj"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></span><span class="x_gmail-author-a-z77zz73zsz86zz87zz68zz75zz66zz65z8aiz74ze2a"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">and
security features which</span></span><span class="x_gmail-author-a-pacz81zu5z71zz66zaty3z83zkvj"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> calls their integrity into question</span></span><span class="x_gmail-author-a-z77zz73zsz86zz87zz68zz75zz66zz65z8aiz74ze2a"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">. </span></span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></span></div>
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<span class="x_gmail-author-a-z77zz73zsz86zz87zz68zz75zz66zz65z8aiz74ze2a"><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">The Nextcloud Platform includes</span></b></span><span class="x_gmail-author-a-z77zz73zsz86zz87zz68zz75zz66zz65z8aiz74ze2a"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">: </span></span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Symbol">·<span class="" style="font-stretch:normal; font-size:7pt; line-height:normal; font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span><span class="x_gmail-author-a-z77zz73zsz86zz87zz68zz75zz66zz65z8aiz74ze2a"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">integrations
for document creation and sharing </span></span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Symbol">·<span class="" style="font-stretch:normal; font-size:7pt; line-height:normal; font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span><span class="x_gmail-author-a-z77zz73zsz86zz87zz68zz75zz66zz65z8aiz74ze2a"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">video
and photo sharing </span></span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Symbol">·<span class="" style="font-stretch:normal; font-size:7pt; line-height:normal; font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span><span class="x_gmail-author-a-z77zz73zsz86zz87zz68zz75zz66zz65z8aiz74ze2a"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">social
sharing </span></span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></span></div>
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<span class="x_gmail-author-a-z77zz73zsz86zz87zz68zz75zz66zz65z8aiz74ze2a"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Symbol">·<span class="" style="font-stretch:normal; font-size:7pt; line-height:normal; font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span class="x_gmail-author-a-z77zz73zsz86zz87zz68zz75zz66zz65z8aiz74ze2a"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">online
meeting platform (thru Big Blue Button)</span></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-size:12pt; font-family:Symbol">·<span class="" style="font-stretch:normal; font-size:7pt; line-height:normal; font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span><span class="x_gmail-author-a-z77zz73zsz86zz87zz68zz75zz66zz65z8aiz74ze2a" style="font-size:12pt"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">and
more…</span></span></div>
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<span class="x_gmail-author-a-z77zz73zsz86zz87zz68zz75zz66zz65z8aiz74ze2a"><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Privacy</span></b></span><span class="x_gmail-author-a-z77zz73zsz86zz87zz68zz75zz66zz65z8aiz74ze2a"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> is
maintained on Nextcloud through “sharing”. When you upload something to your account or create a document, you must choose to share it and who with: the whole group,just one person, or a new group you create. This is true each time, there is no automatic sharing. </span></span></div>
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<div class="">A not-for-profit I'm involved with is planning a series of three speakers that might draw a few hundred people each (or might not). My Zoom account doesn't include webinar features and caps out at 100 seats. What are some good alternatives, either
no-cost or minimal cost? I'm also open to exploring how to broadcast a Zoom call over a higher-capacity system such as Facebook Live. I've been on some calls that were cast to both at the same time, so I know it's possible, but I don't know if the signal gets
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<div class="">Ideally, it would allow chat for early attenders, switch chat off during the presentation, and perhaps turn it back on at the end, enforce preregistration, bump off anyone who disrupts or hijacks the call, and allow for recording and individual
viewing later.</div>
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