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    <font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">If you want a cheap
      virtual machine/cloud host provider, <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://scaleway.com">https://scaleway.com</a> is about
      as cheap as they come ($2.99/m gets you a 20GB storage machine
      with 2 X86 64bit - 2 GB Memory).  I use them.  They are geared
      towards the small/medium enterprise market and not the mom and pop
      store though.  The reason I use them is the price – they are the
      only cloud server provider I've seen that doesn't pay for
      bandwidth and my primary use case is as a backup server meaning I
      am constantly uploading/downloading large amounts of data – I used
      to use AWS and was paying twice to three times what I pay with
      Scaleway.  They have a primarily EU market and do not accept US
      direct deposits, meaning I need to call my bank every month for my
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Aaron E-J
The Other Realm LLC
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://otherrealm.org">http://otherrealm.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://theotherrealm.org">http://theotherrealm.org</a> (Blog)</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2020-06-28 5:52 PM, Shel Horowitz
      via Hidden-discuss wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Have to say I had a site with Siteground and I was
        not at all happy with their bait-and-switch pricing. The second
        year was around 3x as much as the first year and I switched out.
        That site was troublesome in ways that I don't think were
        Siteground's fault, and I ended up closing it.
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        <div>I know they are considered the big bad wolf (or big bad
          alligator ;-) )of hosting, but I have been quite happy with
          Hostgator, which hosts about ten sites for me all within a
          single "baby" account. To the server, they are kind of like
          subdomains, but to the visitor, they look like separate sites.
          Once you get a tech support person on chat (time has varied
          from instant to 20 minutes or so), they generally know what
          they are doing and solve the problem--including the occasional
          security breach. Down times have been present, but minimal.
          And if you don't mind sharing your server, they are very
          inexpensive.</div>
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                        <div>Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"</div>
                        <div>________________________________________________</div>
                        <div>Contact me to bake in profitability while
                          addressing hunger, </div>
                        <div>poverty, war, and catastrophic climate
                          change</div>
                        <div>* First business ever to be Green America
                          Gold Certified</div>
                        <div>* Inducted into the National Environmental
                          Hall of Fame</div>
                        <div>* Certified speaker: International Platform
                          Association</div>
                        <div><a
                            href="http://goingbeyondsustainability.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://goingbeyondsustainability.com</a> </div>
                        <div>mailto:<a
                            href="mailto:shel@greenandprofitable.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">shel@greenandprofitable.com</a>
                          413-586-2388</div>
                        <div>Award-winning, best-selling author of 10
                          books. </div>
                        <div>Latest:Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the
                          World </div>
                        <div>(co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson)</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Watch my TEDx Talk,</div>
                        <div>"Impossible is a Dare: Business for a
                          Better World"</div>
                        <div><a
                            href="http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809</a> </div>
                        <div>(move your mouse to "event videos")</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 11:55
          AM Mark D. Hamill via Hidden-discuss <<a
            href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net"
            moz-do-not-send="true">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">Siteground has good, completely solid state
            shared hosting, a bit expensive. If you can live with its
            quotas on database size and outgoing emails, it's very
            reliable.
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            <div>I haven't used them, but I've heard good things about
              Dreamhost.</div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at
              11:43 AM Lesley Schneider via Hidden-discuss <<a
                href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>>
              wrote:<br>
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            <blockquote class="gmail_quote">Good morning. Earthlink
              crashed from 10 nPM last night to 7:30 this morning
              nationwide. Not all parts of the country are back up yet.
              I have been with them since the 90’s. I have to websites
              and two different email accounts, one for each site. They
              are expensive. Can anyone recommend a god, stable,
              reasonably priced service for my needs?<br>
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              Thank you,<br>
              Lesley<br>
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