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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/15/2020 9:39 PM, Rob Laporte via
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. . . and thanks for getting through my typos--a long overdue
vacation has my fingers literally rebelling against typing,
aggravating my tendency for typos, but this topic beckons.</div>
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<div style=""><font face="Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif"
color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I'm quite sure
that if the body <i>needs</i> more antioxidants, they are
used much more than usual. My plan is moderate use steadily,
a bit more than I've done since reading the 1983 book <a
href="https://www.amazon.com/Life-Extension-Practical-Scientific-Approach/dp/0446512729/"
title="https://www.amazon.com/Life-Extension-Practical-Scientific-Approach/dp/0446512729/"
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Life Extension: A Practical Scientific Approach</a>, by
multi-degreed </span><span style="font-size: 14.6667px;">geniuses</span><span
style="font-size: 11pt;"> off the scale </span></font><span
style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana, Geneva,
sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Durk <span style="font-family:
Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
255); display: inline !important">Pearson<span> and</span></span> Sandy
Shaw. On the topic, one of the best and most challenging
science books I've ever read is <a
href="https://www.amazon.com/Power-Sex-Suicide-Mitochondria-Landmark-dp-0198831900/dp/"
title="https://www.amazon.com/Power-Sex-Suicide-Mitochondria-Landmark-dp-0198831900/dp/"
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the Meaning of Life</a>, which among so many insights
explains why too many antioxidants is not good. <br>
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Marcia, totally agree about effective treatment changing the
outlook. My concern here is that effective treatments that are
not profit centers lack promotion. I wish I had time to convey
just how horrendously the profit motive has distorted truth
in </span><font face="Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif"
color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 14.6667px;">medicine
and undermined the Hippocratic Oath. </span></font></div>
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<div style=""><font face="Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif"
color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 14.6667px;">Regarding
containment, given how much more transmissible SARS Covid-2
is than SARS or, for example, influenza, I believe the math
renders practically impossible the prevention of hitting
~80% of the population if no vaccine is found. And we may
hit that 80% even if one is found over one year from now.
Good studies show that the virus is much more prevalent (I
recall but not clearly to the tune of 20X reported cases).
We could have contained it if the WHO and CDC and Trump
acted when it was obvious enough to studious laypersons
(there too, follow the money). </span></font></div>
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<div style=""><font face="Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif"
color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 14.6667px;">This PH.D.
in Pathology is worth following on the pandemic: </span></font><span
style="font-size: 12pt;"><a
href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD2-QVBQi48RRQTD4Jhxu8w"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD2-QVBQi48RRQTD4Jhxu8w</a> .</span></div>
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<div style=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Upshot is, that the
merciless logic shows a high probability that massive changes
are to unfold for many months if not several years, far more
than central authorities, treating citizens like children, are
conveying.. </span></div>
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Yudkin <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:yudkinyudkin@yahoo.com"><yudkinyudkin@yahoo.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Hidden-tech] The Simple Logic of the
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<div>Your reasoning is pretty good as far as it goes,
but there are two assumptions unspoken in it:</div>
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<div>1)There will be no effective treatment for the
virus, ever, that makes it less lethal and less
severe for those who don't die.
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<div>2)The virus has spread too far now for it
ever to be corralled. Don't forget that SARS
and Ebola both were beaten back as world
threats without a vaccine.<br>
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<div>To me, it seems just as possible that
we'll discover a treatment as that we'll
create a vaccine. It could be herbal,
technological, pharmacological or some
other sort of thing we can't really
imagine yet.<br>
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