<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Hi Rob,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">I hope you're feeling better.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">I agree with the importance of mask wearing everywhere no matter if you have obvious symptoms or not. Everything points to it. Countries that do it are flattening the curve. It just makes sense. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">People are confusing this idea with taking away masks from doctors. That's a misunderstanding. This is about any homemade mask. Anyone can do it and there's no shortage of scrap material. Doctors are endorsing this. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Luckily more people are wearing them in stores around here and the social stigma is going down. The more I see of this, the more hopeful I feel. I agree we can't wait for government orders to do it. They are responding too late.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">I too am hoping for an antibody test soon because I think it's possible many of us have had it already. And it seems the odds are very high that it will have at least some immunity, at least to some strains, which is something.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><div><img src="cid:ii_k8f1cbi10" alt="Screen Shot 2020-03-30 at 6.12.35 PM.png" width="472" height="292"><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thank you.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Val</div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 9:42 AM Rob Laporte via Hidden-discuss <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Prosperity</a> video explains, the WHO is promulgated and falsehood that will sicken and kill many thousands of people in its websites claim that the virus in not airborne. I had claimed that most of the WHO's egregious falsehoods were earlier in the pandemic.
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Thanks for the feedback. I planned to write more today, but alas the darn illness had me bed-bound again. </div>
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The symptoms noted here and in my other conversations are close enough to assign high-ish probability that they stem from the same infective agent. I spoke with my friend who got tested, and unfortunately there's less overlap that I thought--mainly, his passed
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<span style="font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline">I wanted to supply more links to reliable science in this email and spend time confirming the stats below, but I lost more time to sleep. Upshot
is that the biases emerging from corruption at the WHO (mostly earlier) and at the CDC, the biases of great financial and political interests, and the huge forces of denial to which we are all variously subject, make it crucial to get a good cheat sheet of
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A big fork in current science has occurred in the last week or so. T<span style="font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline">he prevailing science shows, for example, that the US peak is weeks away, at
least 60% of our population will be infected within a year, of which 13% to 20% will need hospitalization, and 1.5% to 3.5% of infected will die. The new fork</span> holds that the SARS-2 virus actually spread much more already, which lines up with the RO
range of 4 to 6.7 (average # that one person infects) posited by a major brain trust at Los Alamos in mid to late February. This fork argues that therefore substantially less hospitalization and death are coming. An excellent but rather demanding video put
a big torpedo in this new fork, but the ship isn't sunk and can withstand, barely, the second torpedo from understanding the above-noted forces of bias. If this new fork is true, then this peculiar illness we discuss here could be Covid-19 or an expression
of one of the many (not just the main 2 or 3) mutations circulating now. In the last few days, slight but worrisome data has emerged suggesting that recovery does not prevent re-infection, but assuming that that data does not pan out, I too rather hope I have
covid-19, and won't get worse. If this is the case, once tests are available to detect antibodies, I'd be cleared to help at the hospital or wherever. However, all things considered I lean towards the conclusion that this peculiar illness some of us have now
is just a strange cold. I've known of other colds that come and go like this, and I and my brother had one once that lasted close to two months. </div>
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Prosperity</a><span style="margin:0px;background-color:white">. </span>This local (Montague, MA) PH.D. in pathology has for years run a "doom porn" site. He did called the housing crisis 2 years before it, but then got the financial markets and economy dead
wrong (to be fair, most investing pros don't understand that this time it really is true that "This Time is Different" in financial markets because of Fed money printing institutionalized). For the pandemic he was pretty much 100% right in his predictions
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<div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Rob, I have had very similar symptoms. 3 weeks ago I came down with a raging sore throat, chills and super low energy, but no fever. I went to bed for 1 1/2 days and the symptoms subsided
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<div>But it doesn’t really impact my performance. I am still working 8-10 hours a day, and last week I xc-skied in VT with the manager of our ski area (the trails were groomed but the lodge was closed and we all kept 6 ft. apart.) He is a monster skier
and I had no problems keeping up wit him. However, that evening I did feel unusually low energy and experienced minor chills. Thursday I considered skiing again (likely the last snow of the year) but decided not to because I felt so low juice. I NEVER turn
down a day of swing if there is snow on the ground, especially the end of the season.</div>
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<div>The good news is that even these symptoms seem to be subsiding. They are still noticeable, but they are lessening.</div>
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<div>All three of my adult kids are convinced that I’ve had the virus all along, before I started to isolate (just 1 week ago). If there were a simple test I’d like to do it. I wouldn’t be surprised to find antibodies there. If this is as bad as it
gets then I would consider myself very, very lucky.</div>
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Of course colds and flues continue, and I'm curious if people know of a strange, weak cold that, for me anyway, just makes me tired, and has been going for about 2 weeks now. Had a very minor sore throat for 2-3 days in the first, and brief minor fevers coming
and going in the first week. Also bouts of Tinnitus. A friend working at a high security, Fed-related job had the exact same symptoms, and was immediately double tested to find no Covid-19, so I'm quite sure I'm clear. Anyway, I'd be curious if you;ve had
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