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We've long used Google Hangout, and for over a year the Meet version of it in our paid GSuite account. Hangout supports 25 users at a time; Meet 250. Neiher have has ever terminated us after x minutes. They work great. If you use security software that indicates
when an app communicates with outside servers, you'll find Zoom is doing so a lot, even if you're not using it. And Zoom requires that each person download and install an app, whereas I'm pretty sure Chrome supports Hangout natively. Both may require giving
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<div dir="ltr">I didn't realize there were more comments below. I have no familiarity with the other platforms people recommended. Zoom has been around a while, and that means it's less likely to orphan us--but who knows?
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<div>BTW, if you only have one other person on the call, freebie Zoom DOESN'T cut off after 40 minutes. But if you have three or more, it does, and with no warning.</div>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">In the current climate, organizations are doing more virtual meetings. Because the length of our meetings tends to be more than 40 minutes, using Zoom for me would require a paid subscription; the next level above "Free" is $15/month.
Someone suggested Google Hangouts. Is there also a threshold between free and paid? If there is, what is the basis? Number of participants, duration of conference, etc.? What's your experience?
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Thanks for any info. Private response is OK, although perhaps other Hidden-Techies are facing the same type of choice.<u></u><u></u></p>
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