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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks, both,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Typically, the group in question would have about a dozen attendees; 20 would be tops. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ed Bride<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Bahman Mahdavi <bahman@webwerk.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 27, 2020 4:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> Michael Muller <tech@montaguewebworks.com><br><b>Cc:</b> ed@edbride-pr.com; hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Hidden-tech] Zoom vs. Hangouts ?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks Mik. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>That pretty much sums it up for me too. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Just be aware that the Zoom iOS app will share your data with Facebook <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/k7e599/zoom-ios-app-sends-data-to-facebook-even-if-you-dont-have-a-facebook-account" target="_blank">https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/k7e599/zoom-ios-app-sends-data-to-facebook-even-if-you-dont-have-a-facebook-account</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> --<br> Bahman Mahdavi<br> WebWerk LLC<br> 802.365.7635 (h)<br> 802.275.2253 (c)<br> <a href="mailto:bahman@webwerk.com">bahman@webwerk.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 3:46 PM Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" target="_blank">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p>Zoom works fairly flawlessly and I feel is certainly worth the $15/mo price tag. I'm sure many people will sign up and perhaps when the crises is over probably half will cancel.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Hangouts works well for smaller groups, though it's confusing in that there's a company-level Hangout, and a personal Chrome Hangouts, which is a Chrome Extension.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Skype is also good for smaller groups, and is a Microsoft product.<o:p></o:p></p><p>For Mac-based people, there's Facetime, also for smaller groups. This is free and works on phones, tablets, and Mac laptops.<o:p></o:p></p><p>My experience. Your mileage will probably vary.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Mik<o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><pre>---<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Mik Muller, president<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Montague WebWorks<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/239-R+Main+Street,+Greenfield,+MA?entry=gmail&source=g" target="_blank">239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>413-320-5336<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://MontagueWebWorks.com" target="_blank">http://MontagueWebWorks.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Powered by ROCKETFUSION<o:p></o:p></pre><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 3/27/2020 1:38 PM, ed--- via Hidden-discuss wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>HT hive,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>In the current climate, organizations are doing more virtual meetings. Because the length of our meetings tends to be more than 40 minutes, using Zoom for me would require a paid subscription; the next level above "Free" is $15/month. Someone suggested Google Hangouts. Is there also a threshold between free and paid? If there is, what is the basis? Number of participants, duration of conference, etc.? What's your experience? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks for any info. Private response is OK, although perhaps other Hidden-Techies are facing the same type of choice.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ed Bride<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:47.55pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>